FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I am in the $3r right now, here is the hand in question.PokerStars Game #19728143291: Tournament #102283262, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIX (3000/6000) - 2008/08/19 - 01:02:26 (ET)Table '102283262 360' 9-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: COLOMBIA954 (85607 in chips) Seat 2: TokenOne (69915 in chips) Seat 3: Krab420 (34412 in chips) Seat 4: poke76 (56960 in chips) Seat 5: ADDILAC299 (237836 in chips) Seat 6: casimir94 (152248 in chips) Seat 7: driverpapa (88333 in chips) Seat 8: brasil1606 (238509 in chips) Seat 9: browsef (276221 in chips) COLOMBIA954: posts the ante 600TokenOne: posts the ante 600Krab420: posts the ante 600poke76: posts the ante 600ADDILAC299: posts the ante 600casimir94: posts the ante 600driverpapa: posts the ante 600brasil1606: posts the ante 600browsef: posts the ante 600TokenOne: posts small blind 3000Krab420: posts big blind 6000*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to ADDILAC299 [As Jd]poke76: folds ADDILAC299: raises 8775 to 14775casimir94: folds driverpapa: folds brasil1606: folds browsef: folds COLOMBIA954: folds TokenOne: calls 11775Krab420: folds *** FLOP *** [9c 7s 5s]TokenOne: checks ADDILAC299: checks *** TURN *** [9c 7s 5s] [Td]TokenOne: checks ADDILAC299: bets 33590TokenOne: folds Uncalled bet (33590) returned to ADDILAC299ADDILAC299 collected 40950 from potADDILAC299: doesn't show hand After I bet 33590, an observer said "Call" but he folded. Well I honestly am just upset because a Mod was called on observers of mine earlier because they were calling for a card after i was all in. So I called the Mod on this observer for trying to influence action....Mod94 came to the table and told me this was NOT in chat violation, then leaves. I instantly call mod back and Mod94 tells us the same thing. I called mod back a 3rd time, and mod says hold on, waits 5 hands, then proceeds me to email questions to their chat support. This was after i clearly asked if I can rail a friend and tell them how to play every hand, since it isn't against Mod94's rules.What is everyone elses thoughts on this??? Am I out of line? the Mod? The observer? Link to post Share on other sites
pt special 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 enough of the damn pity partiesedit: just adding i didnt read any of the post Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 if a person calls because a railer tells him to thats pretty sad. I wouldnt worry about it. Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 if a person calls because a railer tells him to thats pretty sad. I wouldnt worry about it.But what happens if that person were to be a High stakes MTT player railing a friend? Is that different? Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 But what happens if that person were to be a High stakes MTT player railing a friend? Is that different?yea maybe.... you never know if that high stakes mtt player has other high stakes mtt players in his room helping him on every hand though.Its one of those things thats almost impossible to enforce, railers should be the last thing your worrying about. If a mod was there he should be banning chats though, so you are right. Link to post Share on other sites
TheRegime 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think anyone not in the hand should shut their mouth about the hand. Also if there is a multiway pot people shouldnt say "I know you are bluffing" or "You have a big hand" etc if there are stil others to act in the hand.Something close happened in a home game the other day. This girl who is a biatch and the wierdest person and a loose passive player which I hate. Slows the game down.Anyways I bet preflop with AJ 2 callers. Flop 773 I C bet and get 1 caller. She had folded her hand. Turn comes 4 it goes check check. River 10 he checks I bet and the girl who folded says "bullshit" and then the guy calls with like K4 or something.I snapped because she pretty much said I was bluffing by saying that. Then she tried to play it off as if she hit a hand and was saying bullshit about the riv. I told her to show me her hand and I know the type of person she is so Im sure she didnt mean it about the cards.I almost knocked her out. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 49 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't think you're wrong for complaining. If someone at the table had said that I think it would be a clear violation. As for what an observer can say it appears the rules are more lax? Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Whydoyouhateloosepassiveplayers?theyrewhatweliketocalldonators. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think anyone not in the hand should shut their mouth about the hand. Also if there is a multiway pot people shouldnt say "I know you are bluffing" or "You have a big hand" etc if there are stil others to act in the hand.Something close happened in a home game the other day. This girl who is a biatch and the wierdest person and a loose passive player which I hate. Slows the game down.Anyways I bet preflop with AJ 2 callers. Flop 773 I C bet and get 1 caller. She had folded her hand. Turn comes 4 it goes check check. River 10 he checks I bet and the girl who folded says "bullshit" and then the guy calls with like K4 or something.I snapped because she pretty much said I was bluffing by saying that. Then she tried to play it off as if she hit a hand and was saying bullshit about the riv. I told her to show me her hand and I know the type of person she is so Im sure she didnt mean it about the cards.I almost knocked her out.you were getting called there anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I don't think you're wrong for complaining, but I think you could just ignore it or block observer chat. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 youre not wrong for complaining, its a pretty clear violation of the rules. Link to post Share on other sites
no not baxter 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 BBFIDTS Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 19, 2008 Author Share Posted August 19, 2008 BBFIDTSAce. From. Space. Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 BBFIDTS Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Ive called the mods for a situation like this before where I had a maniac image and ones of the players was trying to influence action during the hand and the mod basically told me to suck it up. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Ive called the mods for a situation like this before where I had a maniac image and ones of the players was trying to influence action during the hand and the mod basically told me to suck it up.thats messed up.i was playing in ac a few weeks ago and wasn't thinking (or was thinking out loud) and said something during a hand that i shouldn't have. two players and the dealer immediately were like whoa you can't say things like that. people who arent involved in hands saying things to influence the action during a hand is sort of a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
r0llin_game 2 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 the mods on stars are ****ing retarded/thread Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 stars is the best Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 stars is the bestI agree, but they are getting a lot more strict with stuff, especially observer chat. I got a warning the other day for dumb stuff, as did Highwaystar (CLONK). Tehtoe has 2 warnings in the last few day, although he probably deserved it :)On topic, I would have just told him to STFU while hands are being played. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I agree, but they are getting a lot more strict with stuff, especially observer chat. I got a warning the other day for dumb stuff, as did Highwaystar (CLONK). Tehtoe has 2 warnings in the last few day, although he probably deserved it We never do what this dude said.Someone did it to me when I put someone all in the other day when I had air. I left some chips behind like usual and then someone else on the table says "call" whilst the other guy is thinking, which was really not right at all. Link to post Share on other sites
Elo and AG 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I agree, but they are getting a lot more strict with stuff, especially observer chat. I got a warning the other day for dumb stuff, as did Highwaystar (CLONK). Tehtoe has 2 warnings in the last few day, although he probably deserved it :)On topic, I would have just told him to STFU while hands are being played.Why would Tehtoe deserves a warning ? He's the guy on FCP that has the most respect and good attitude when he chats...... I would be very surprised if that were true that he had 2 warnings.Stop the drugs buddy.... QFT on the STFU thing, if you are NOT in the HAND, STFU..... Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 We never do what this dude said.Someone did it to me when I put someone all in the other day when I had air. I left some chips behind like usual and then someone else on the table says "call" whilst the other guy is thinking, which was really not right at all.Don't get me wrong, I agree it's totally not right but most people who do it are probably too stupid to realize it's wrong. Hence me just telling them to STFU. If they continued, I'd obviously report it. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 Rolling_game sig is the best wrongFYP Link to post Share on other sites
Poker Addict 0 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 We never do what this dude said.LOL you guys never say Call in a chat box? He said it was an observer that did that. And yes, it shouldn't affect the play but it could in a tiny percentage. Does it matter if this guy was joking about the Call or does he have to be serious? And how do you know the difference?AND, how would the observer know if it was a call or not unless he knows his hand which means they are talking outside of chat anyway? Link to post Share on other sites
r0llin_game 2 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 FYPum how did my sig become part of that? lol? Link to post Share on other sites
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