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[Gaffer]

Run like crap all month in everything, was feeling ok about my game but didnt go anywhere.

So i now have 8 dollars, wont reload, what should i play ?

5 mtts ? or 5 sngs or should i just quit ?

[copernicus]

Run like crap all month in everything, was feeling ok about my game but didnt go anywhere.

So i now have 8 dollars, wont reload, what should i play ?

5 mtts ? or 5 sngs or should i just quit ?

1 HU SnG, win it move to 6 seat sngs

[Gaffer]

1 HU SnG, win it move to 6 seat sngs

what buy in ?

[Steevt_]

what buy in ?

1 x 9 Man $5 Buy In

or
1 x 45 man $5 Buy In if you want a bigger reward.

[Gaffer]

this is how i run i know i am slowplaying but i get my read spot on, and it just happens all the time.

I think i may quit cause i think i suck bad

PokerStars Game #19670284442: Tournament #100868422, $1.00+$0.10 Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2008/08/16 - 19:33:49 (ET)
Table '100868422 24' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: mosalyers (850 in chips)
Seat 2: onedaythe1 (1915 in chips)
Seat 3: Jgb8879 (730 in chips)
Seat 4: Mr.B5 (3255 in chips)
Seat 5: TwiztidChamp (2565 in chips)
Seat 6: raisinghell (805 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: midvalley42 (410 in chips)
Seat 8: ford2424 (1265 in chips)
Seat 9: GRJ78 (2670 in chips)
mosalyers: posts small blind 25
onedaythe1: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GRJ78 [Qh Qd]
Jgb8879: folds
Mr.B5: calls 50
TwiztidChamp: folds
raisinghell: folds
midvalley42: folds
ford2424: calls 50
GRJ78: calls 50
mosalyers: calls 25
onedaythe1: checks
*** FLOP *** [2d 6h Jh]
mosalyers: checks
onedaythe1: checks
Mr.B5: checks
ford2424: bets 300
GRJ78: calls 300
mosalyers: folds
onedaythe1: folds
Mr.B5: folds
*** TURN *** [2d 6h Jh] [Th]
ford2424: bets 915 and is all-in
GRJ78: calls 915
*** RIVER *** [2d 6h Jh Th] [Ad]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ford2424: shows [Ac Jc] (two pair, Aces and Jacks)
GRJ78: shows [Qh Qd] (a pair of Queens)
ford2424 collected 2680 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2680 | Rake 0
Board [2d 6h Jh Th Ad]
Seat 1: mosalyers (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: onedaythe1 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Jgb8879 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Mr.B5 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: TwiztidChamp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: raisinghell folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: midvalley42 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ford2424 showed [Ac Jc] and won (2680) with two pair, Aces and Jacks
Seat 9: GRJ78 (button) showed [Qh Qd] and lost with a pair of Queens

[The Feelings Jar]

I cashed out my Stars roll a while ago to pay for bills and I switched sites but I saw I had 1.84 left in my Stars account. I'm in the process of running it up to 100 and cashing out. I expect to be able to do this and I'm doing it by short stacking cash games.

I would have been there already but I had a bad beat at 50nl to crush my hopes of doing it in less than 500 hands. It was 8s6s > QQ AIPF

/sighhhhhh

[donk4life]

That's not slowplaying, that's just pure stupidity.

Limping in with a bunch of others limpers with pocket Queens is probably one of the dumbest plays you can make. I'm not trying to be mean with this either, you just don't do that.

[iggymcfly]

I think i may quit cause i think i suck bad

Agreed. The postflop stuff's all reasonable, but limping preflop there is terri-bad. It's easy to focus on the big pots where you get sucked out on, but you're probably throwing away a ton of small pots playing stupid/passive like that.

[dreamcrusher28]

Use whatever FPP's you have to sattelite into the weekly 100K. Play the 10-man 70 FPP SnG. I made an extra $400 recently thanks to those without much effort.


Not depositing money sounds like a good idea for now. The only time I limp QQ in that situation is when I misclick.

[Gaffer]

That's not slowplaying, that's just pure stupidity.

Limping in with a bunch of others limpers with pocket Queens is probably one of the dumbest plays you can make. I'm not trying to be mean with this either, you just don't do that.

Nah i think it was ok, i was at the table i knew what action was going on, i know what your saying but like 75% of the time i would raise with this, but this time i called and was doing fine, you may think its bad, but just because you have a big pair dosent mean you have to raise 100% of the time.

What if i raise there 5 times the bb ? and get no action, what if he shoves all in i am still getting beat, i dont think its stupid, i think that i am mixing my play...its a bad beat nothing else than that.

Why is it stupid or dumb ?

Edit: that was the first hand i limped all tourney, yeah its passive but i just checked my hh and limping is a bad habit i agree, i just felt at that table it was an ok play

Edit 2: dont wanna sound like a dick in my previous posts but i dont think you can judge my whole play from one hand

edit 3 : i won the hu

[pokerinc]

Nah i think it was ok, i was at the table i knew what action was going on, i know what your saying but like 75% of the time i would raise with this, but this time i called and was doing fine, you may think its bad, but just because you have a big pair dosent mean you have to raise 100% of the time.

What if i raise there 5 times the bb ? and get no action, what if he shoves all in i am still getting beat, i dont think its stupid, i think that i am mixing my play...its a bad beat nothing else than that.

Why is it stupid or dumb ?

Edit: that was the first hand i limped all tourney, yeah its passive but i just checked my hh and limping is a bad habit i agree, i just felt at that table it was an ok play

Edit 2: dont wanna sound like a dick in my previous posts but i dont think you can judge my whole play from one hand

edit 3 : i won the hu

If you think that that hand was just "grrr...this is how I run!" Then yes, we can judge a lot by it. And again by you stodgily defending yourself here. You cost yourself a very large pot instead of winning a good sized one there, and mixing up your play isn't a good excuse. Mix up by betting and raising different stuff, not by playing a big hand into passive purgatory.

[babylondonks]

Nah i think it was ok, i was at the table i knew what action was going on, i know what your saying but like 75% of the time i would raise with this, but this time i called and was doing fine, you may think its bad, but just because you have a big pair dosent mean you have to raise 100% of the time.

What if i raise there 5 times the bb ? and get no action, what if he shoves all in i am still getting beat, i dont think its stupid, i think that i am mixing my play...its a bad beat nothing else than that.

Why is it stupid or dumb ?

Edit: that was the first hand i limped all tourney, yeah its passive but i just checked my hh and limping is a bad habit i agree, i just felt at that table it was an ok play

Edit 2: dont wanna sound like a dick in my previous posts but i dont think you can judge my whole play from one hand

edit 3 : i won the hu

Trust me, with premium hands like QQ, you are raising more than 75%, more than 100% if that was even possible. If everyone folds, so what? That's poker. Don't try and get into this "maximising game". Okay, for arguments sake let's say I limp the button along with the other four players in the hand. Regardless of the flop, we're pretty much only going to get action with hands that beat us. If that flop came 10-8-2 and we bet then we can assume all those other hands are going to fold. If we raise pre-flop, then that AJ is going to come along for the ride, and we're going to at least win an extra 5 or so BB's whether a Jack flops or not.
The bolded part above is definately not true, especially for $1 45-man SNG's. We're ahead of a villain's shoving range here around 97% of the time. And we're flipping maybe 2% of the time. Most people at these levels play Aces and Kings the exact same way you played your Queens because they're scared of everybody folding, them slowing down allow us to either get away from our hand or outflop them and win all their money.

[antistuff]

i don't think a limp there is horrible however at this level it is not necessary and you probably did it for the wrong reasons.

[jmbreslin]

i don't think a limp there is horrible however at this level it is not necessary and you probably did it for the wrong reasons.

How is a limp there not horrible? The only time limping there might be an okay play is if you have good reason to believe one of the blinds is highly aggressive and will raise a wide range. Otherwise you give your opponents (especially at this level of play) freedom to see the flop with all sorts of hands that can outflop you. You really want to raise and preferably get heads-up with position against one of the limpers.

QQ is not the nuts and you can't "slowplay" it like it is.

Everyone goes on bad runs now and then but if your bad run has completely depleted your bankroll then you need to do 2 things:
1) learn about bankroll management
2) take a good, long hard look at your play and start working on plugging the leaks

[antistuff]

How is a limp there not horrible? The only time limping there might be an okay play is if you have good reason to believe one of the blinds is highly aggressive and will raise a wide range. Otherwise you give your opponents (especially at this level of play) freedom to see the flop with all sorts of hands that can outflop you. You really want to raise and preferably get heads-up with position against one of the limpers.

QQ is not the nuts and you can't "slowplay" it like it is.

Everyone goes on bad runs now and then but if your bad run has completely depleted your bankroll then you need to do 2 things:
1) learn about bankroll management
2) take a good, long hard look at your play and start working on plugging the leaks

if you are limping that there thinking that you are slow playing it then you're right, its pretty horrible.

[ABigMotivation]

Id rather win a small pot by raising then to lose a big pot by playing too slow and getting sucked out on.

[pokerinc]

if you are limping that there thinking that you are slow playing it then you're right, its pretty horrible.

what else would you be thinking besides 'lol slow play'?


Serious Q.

[ROBBBIGG]

limping queens is awesome, why are you guys freaking out

[Gaffer]

Thansk for the advice guys.

I see were you are going with this now, and yes the qq was a mistake pre-flop

[DocHoliday]

I will limp with queens every now and then, but only if it is 3 people or less left with me in the hand. But if I do limp, then I am doing it quite prepared to throw it away if a scare card comes. But on this level AJ is not going anywhere either way, and after he flopped a jack, money was going in no matter what you did, so no real reason to feel bad. AJ was not folding for 5 times BB on this level like, never.