set of queens [ps 2/4]

[Absolute 0]

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [Qs], [Qc]. 5 folds, MP3 calls, Button calls.Flop: (10 SB) [Qd], [7h], [9s] (3 players)Hero bets, MP3 calls, Button calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [8d] (3 players)Hero bets, MP3 calls.River: (12.50 BB) [Js] (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 14.50 BBTurn and river, discuss.

[KDawgCometh 2]

the board now officially sucks on the turn, just call the raise. Hope to fill or quad up

[Guest XXEddie]

I feel he may have spiked a set on the turn, but I doubt it. I like the turn raise, it shows you arent scared of anythingnow if he caps, obviously you have to call and check/call river unless you fill/quad up

[Guest XXEddie]

the board now officially sucks on the turn, just call the raise. Hope to fill or quad up

I beg to differonly JTs do you need to worry about here, 56 and T6 have you beat, but I dont think youll call a 3-bet with such a hand.But the river card....that really sucks any overplayed TT AT, QT, T9.....whatever has you beat

[wrto4556 0]

3-betting the turn is goot.Check/calling this river is correct because this opponent is aggressive (chris told me so).

[Absolute 0]

i didnt mention statsvillian is an eaglei dont feel like pulling him upbut he was something like 18/10/3 IIRC

[dms26 3]

I like the 3 bet on the turn, he didn't cap so he doesn't have JT. River is easy check/call. He probably had something like AT.

[vaglvr 0]

I feel he may have spiked a set on the turn, but I doubt it. I like the turn raise, it shows you arent scared of anythingnow if he caps, obviously you have to call and check/call river unless you fill/quad up

Thats what I thought right away too. He has to have a pair or better to raise the turn. Unless he is an idiot who thinks someone will fold for one more bet, his hand had to improve with the river. A bet here makes no sense otherwise. And I think a set would have capped with the board on the turn. Possibly Jacks or Tens???

[Petoria 0]

I think the one point that we are all missing here is that MP3 raised preflop. You dont need to worry about 10 7 or sh!t like that. I really doubt he has JTs either, unless he was trying to run a steal. Why would you raise with JTs when everyone has folded to you? JTs wants a multi-way pot and raising doesnt accomplish that. TT is a possibility, he's raising with outs on the turn. I think its also possible that he's rolling with AQ. You played it correctly, you can't lead at the river because only hands that beat you are going to raise. There arent enough hands that just call to justify it either. Everything looks fine.

[vaglvr 0]

I think AQ is out for sure with a bet on the river...

[dms26 3]

 I really doubt he has JTs either, unless he was trying to run a steal.  Why would you raise with JTs when everyone has folded to you?  JTs wants a multi-way pot and raising doesnt accomplish that.  

If you're the first one in from late position you should raise, even with JTs. For one you don't want the button to limp behind you, you want to buy the button. 2 it disguises your hand, 3 it's always better to be the aggressor.

[KDawgCometh 2]

I think the one point that we are all missing here is that MP3 raised preflop.  You dont need to worry about 10 7 or sh!t like that.  I really doubt he has JTs either, unless he was trying to run a steal.  Why would you raise with JTs when everyone has folded to you?  JTs wants a multi-way pot and raising doesnt accomplish that.  TT is a possibility, he's raising with outs on the turn.  I think its also possible that he's rolling with AQ.  You played it correctly, you can't lead at the river because only hands that beat you are going to raise.  There arent enough hands that just call to justify it either.  Everything looks fine.

making opening raises from the hijack is standard with J10s

[cdddc75 0]

I play it the same way. I'm three betting that turn like a mofo. The fourth straight card on the river...that just sucks donk balls. Check/call and hope the guy doesn't have a ten.

[vaglvr 0]

Check/call and hope the guy doesn't have a ten.

I'm hoping that the moral of the story is to not always stare at the board and just say he has a 10. He didn't cap for a reason on the turn, but I think his hand improved on the river hopefully not to the point of beating him.....