Min Raised On River

[Frez 0]

Ultimate BetPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $1./$2.5 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with T T 5 A UTG calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.Flop: T 2 A ($10, 5 players)SB checks, Hero bets $8, UTG calls, 3 folds.Turn: 8 ($26, 2 players)Hero bets $22, UTG calls.River: 6 ($70, 2 players)Hero bets $41, UTG raises to $82, Hero ???First time I've taken a shot at a game this big because the PT data I had mined marked it as a very soft game.Villan 72/10/2 over 107 handsI'm curious about river, but other streets as well of course

[pepper50000 0]

Raisy daisy, what beats you? he cant have aces full, so essentially you have the nuts.I dont see how you played this wrong, second set on a dry board. This is value town all the way babyReally that river was a perfect card, i just cant see a hand that beats you, in fact, I dont think there is a hand that beats you, you have the nuts

[ROBBBIGG 0]

yeah, is this a level? how do you not have the best hand possible here?

[Frez 0]

yeah, is this a level? how do you not have the best hand possible here?

Umm, I don't have the best possible hand because the Ac appears to have come on the flop AND the turn. Converter error - I'll fix it up.

[ROBBBIGG 0]

Umm, I don't have the best possible hand because the Ac appears to have come on the flop AND the turn. Converter error - I'll fix it up.

I call because he's only repping 79 here and giving us decent odds. If he had AAxx, LOL, but I think you're good often enough to call.I really hope more PLO players post in this thread because this seems like an easy call, but I often end up getting owned here some % of the time that I feel dumb when he has it.

[pepper50000 0]

OK, now your thread makes sense, u know, its a tough call, the only hand that beats you is AAxx...and you have an A in your hand so....I mean, he limps in with AAxx?I think with a read this is a call, but I cant see a player limping with AAxx, unless they are being tricky or somethingpersonally I like AAxx in a multiway pot, I think alot of the time it has better value then against one or two opponents, and Set mine, this might sound week, i dunno,AAxx is probably the hardest hand to play in Omaha in my mind.He could also be repping something stupid like a Set of 2`s on the flopYeah, just looking at this hand, your either crushed on the flop or crushingI think this is a call though, def not a raiseunless you think hes gonna call with a straight....

[meservery 0]

I think this is a call though, def not a raiseunless you think hes gonna call with a straight....

Now I'm really confused.If the hand history is right now, just call. You have fired 3 streets and are now being min-check raised on the river. I don't see value in a re-pot. But I am super nitty on the river.

[pepper50000 0]

Looking at this hand, I think this becomes more read decision based then maths, how long have you played with villan, does he call light on the river, have you seen him raise AAxx before, because alot of omaha players will raise with Aces, not many limp inPlus he could have 9s full or something as wellI think I would min raise, and then maybe maybe fold to another raise, but I would expect to call and win...what was the result btw

[BudBundy 0]

oh god please never ever min re-raise/fold this river. I call this just because people are retarded , not that i love to call this river. Normally he shouldn't be doing this with anything but the straight. But they actually do.

[meservery 0]

Looking at this hand, I think this becomes more read decision based then maths, how long have you played with villan, does he call light on the river, have you seen him raise AAxx before, because alot of omaha players will raise with Aces, not many limp inPlus he could have 9s full or something as wellI think I would min raise, and then maybe maybe fold to another raise, but I would expect to call and win...what was the result btw

Wait... Am I the only one who does not see the board paired. Am I going crazy?

[Frez 0]

Plus he could have 9s full or something as well

Wait... Am I the only one who does not see the board paired. Am I going crazy?

Umm, no. 9s full of what?!?

[iggymcfly 0]

Thread's wrong here (or at least the ones posting since the converter was fixed). A river min-raise from this type of player is going to be the straight ~98% of the time. You should definitely fold here. Just to show that I'm not all talk, and I'm capable of making this play in game, here's me bet-folding to a min-raise against a similar loose-passive donkey.POKERSTARS GAME #19316968128: OMAHA POT LIMIT ($5/$10) - 2008/08/03 - 02:26:28 (ET)Table 'Desdemona IV' 6-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: badr ($970 in chips) Seat 2: iggymcfly ($3955.25 in chips) Seat 3: muddy1969 ($1667.50 in chips) Seat 4: nipe1955 ($5068.05 in chips) Seat 5: GHand69 ($1230.75 in chips) Seat 6: Drock8d5 ($2982 in chips) iggymcfly: posts small blind $5muddy1969: posts big blind $10*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to iggymcfly [9d 5c 8c 9c]nipe1955: calls $10GHand69: raises $30 to $40Drock8d5: calls $40badr: calls $40iggymcfly: calls $35muddy1969: folds nipe1955: calls $30*** FLOP *** [8h 4s 7c]iggymcfly: checks nipe1955: bets $130GHand69: folds Drock8d5: calls $130badr: folds iggymcfly: calls $130*** TURN *** [8h 4s 7c] [6c]iggymcfly: bets $597nipe1955: calls $597Drock8d5: folds *** RIVER *** [8h 4s 7c 6c] [8s]iggymcfly: bets $850nipe1955: raises $850 to $1700iggymcfly: folds Uncalled bet ($850) returned to nipe1955nipe1955 collected $3491 from potnipe1955: doesn't show hand Drock8d5 said, "im equally confused lol"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $3494 | Rake $3 Board [8h 4s 7c 6c 8s]Seat 1: badr (button) folded on the FlopSeat 2: iggymcfly (small blind) folded on the RiverSeat 3: muddy1969 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: nipe1955 collected ($3491)Seat 5: GHand69 folded on the FlopSeat 6: Drock8d5 folded on the Turn

[BudBundy 0]

I think folding is giving way too much credit to the players at this level.Considering the sillyness potential of an average player , i think 6 to 1 are good odds to call this. You should win this enough times.