CoranMoran 0 Posted August 1, 2008 Share Posted August 1, 2008 Assume I am new to this table.Is this an appropriate time to raise-fold the turn?Please advise--CM=====================Poker StarsLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$46 playersConverterPre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J J UTG raises, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Hero 3-bets, SB folds, BB caps, UTG calls, CO calls, Hero calls.Flop: K 6 5 (16.5SB, 4 players)BB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks.Turn: K (8.25BB, 4 players)BB checks, UTG bets, CO calls, Hero raises, Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 what are we afraid of that we can't just call here and call on the river.we put the same in and keep the co around with his 7s or whatever he has. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 2, 2008 Share Posted August 2, 2008 what are we afraid of that we can't just call here and call on the river.If we're not betting the flop (might not be prudent to bet), I prefer this call-call too. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 I think I'd hate a raise/fold here, because it's so obvious we don't have the King, and someone who is moderately competent might try to rebluff us here, putting us on a missed AQ or something.I like showing down hands as strong as this. :DDoes anyone like a flop bet? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted August 3, 2008 Share Posted August 3, 2008 Does anyone like a flop bet?I mentioned it, yeah. It's not unreasonable that we have the best hand (I see plenty of BB cold-caps "for fun") and it might make the hand a bit easier to play. Link to post Share on other sites
CoranMoran 0 Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 what are we afraid of that we can't just call here and call on the river.Aces and Queens could kill my hand if I am currently ahead.The raise could get some folds from anyone thinking I am holding a King.I think I'd hate a raise/fold here, because it's so obvious we don't have the King, and someone who is moderately competent might try to rebluff us here, putting us on a missed AQ or something.Interesting...If it is obvious that I don't have the King, then I agree that bet-folding here would be bad.But why is it obvious?I see poor players Slowplay their Top Pair on the flop all the time.It's a bad move for them to do so, but I thought the flop check followed by the turn raise would show great strength.What else could it represent?Certainly not JJ Does anyone like a flop bet?Betting the flop in position is certainly an option here.But I think we are too far from showdown to call all the way down if raised.And bet-folding the flop with the Flush Draw on board seems weak.--cm Link to post Share on other sites
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