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#1 FCP Bob

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:11 PM

It looks like Poker Stars has increased the guarantees on most of their tourneys that have them including the Sunday Million and Warm Up which are now $1.5 Million and $750K respectively.

I don't know all the details but I think they will be adding more tourneys with guarantees as well so keep an eye out on their schedule over the next couple days to see what tourneys are on it.

Remember that the reason that Stars offers guarantees is not for overlays but to guarantee that a tournament will be of a minimum size.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:13 PM

Best news Ive heard all day
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:18 PM

You sat in on the conference call today?

Where did you find this self relient info?

Greedy dudes imo. rake needs.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:18 PM

Now if only I could afford these "tourneys"

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (MadKennedy420 @ Sunday, July 27th, 2008, 4:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You sat in on the conference call today?

Where did you find this self relient info?


I think he's got one of the Stars Tourney Guys on MSN. wink.gif

Enjoy the tourneys, gang...

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:25 PM

what is the best way to deposit on ps, bryan?

i am an american...
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (MadKennedy420 @ Sunday, July 27th, 2008, 4:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what is the best way to deposit on ps, bryan?

i am an american...


To be honest, I have absolutely no idea. I'd be happy to ask our Deposit Assistance Team for you, but you'd no doubt get a quicker answer by asking them directly. Please write to support and put in your subject header: "Best Way to Deposit? (American)" ... someone will reply to you as quickly as possible and you'll be well on your way. smile.gif

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:35 PM

QUOTE (Bryan S. - PokerStars @ Saturday, July 26th, 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To be honest, I have absolutely no idea. I'd be happy to ask our Deposit Assistance Team for you, but you'd no doubt get a quicker answer by asking them directly. Please write to support and put in your subject header: "Best Way to Deposit? (American)" ... someone will reply to you as quickly as possible and you'll be well on your way. smile.gif

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Ok, now what's the best way to get IM's from you? And money?

Totally kidding.

Maybe.

Not really.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:36 PM

QUOTE (MadKennedy420 @ Saturday, July 26th, 2008, 8:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
what is the best way to deposit on ps, bryan?

i am an american...

I find not losing my bankrol the best for dealing with deposit issues icon_biggrin.gif


P.S. Bryan how about a 3 step sit and go sattelite system for the $215's???

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:43 PM

As a non tourney donk, I'm just curious what good does this do? Like, I assume this just happened because the tourneys were always over the guarentee anyway right? So why does it matter? (serious question, not being sarcastic or anything. I just don't play tourneys so I always wondered what this was for on sites like PS that never seem to have overlays)

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:46 PM

In other words;

PS is making a ton of money. So we will offer a "GUARANTEE" that is not really a guarantee, but sounds good. We will promote it, along with our other "hello sucker" offers.

2X the bonus.......2x times the points...... 2X the opportunity to get screwed.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:47 PM

best deposit option is Echecks.....FTW

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE (NoSup4U @ Saturday, July 26th, 2008, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As a non tourney donk, I'm just curious what good does this do? Like, I assume this just happened because the tourneys were always over the guarentee anyway right? So why does it matter? (serious question, not being sarcastic or anything. I just don't play tourneys so I always wondered what this was for on sites like PS that never seem to have overlays)

Mark



People that scoffed at, say 750k gtd, will see 1.5 mil and play the tourny. They're just trying to make the tournaments bigger.

More guarantees will get more players, though.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (NoSup4U @ Saturday, July 26th, 2008, 11:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As a non tourney donk, I'm just curious what good does this do? Like, I assume this just happened because the tourneys were always over the guarantee anyway right? So why does it matter? (serious question, not being sarcastic or anything. I just don't play tourneys so I always wondered what this was for on sites like PS that never seem to have overlays)

Mark



There are 2 reasons for poker sites to offer guarantees on tournaments.

One reason is as part of a marketing plan to drive new players to a site by offering tournaments with designed overlays. This is what Mansion Poker did for example with all the constant overlays on their tournaments. It actually is a horrible use of marketing money for a site other than once in awhile for a big event.

The other reason is to guarantee that tournaments will have a minimum size. By offering a guarantee that the site thinks the tournament will either meet or exceed they can shape their tournament schedule and players will know that a certain tournament will always be at least a minimum size. At a site like Stars whenever they increase the size of the guarantee it also increases the number of people who are going to play a tournament and most players like that.

Poker Stars would be stupid to offer guarantees with designed overlays as they don't need to do it and also I would hate to think how large they would have to make the guarantee in some cases so that it wouldn't be met.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:12 PM

QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Saturday, July 26th, 2008, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There are 2 reasons for poker sites to offer guarantees on tournaments.

One reason is as part of a marketing plan to drive new players to a site by offering tournaments with designed overlays. This is what Mansion Poker did for example with all the constant overlays on their tournaments. It actually is a horrible use of marketing money for a site other than once in awhile for a big event.

The other reason is to guarantee that tournaments will have a minimum size. By offering a guarantee that the site thinks the tournament will either meet or exceed they can shape their tournament schedule and players will know that a certain tournament will always be at least a minimum size. At a site like Stars whenever they increase the size of the guarantee it also increases the number of people who are going to play a tournament and most players like that.

Poker Stars would be stupid to offer guarantees with designed overlays as they don't need to do it and also I would hate to think how large they would have to make the guarantee in some cases so that it wouldn't be met.


Bob,

I have always respected you. You are one hell of a moderator.....and more important...... one of the finest human beings it has ever been my pleasure to deal with.

But please, as someone once said, maybe it was Clint Eastwood....... don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

The only thing that Poker Stars is going to guarantee is their profits. They will do nothing for the average poker player except lessen their chances of winning anything meaningful.

More suckers, more rake....... hence more profit for PS.

Wait..... it wasn't Clint who said it, but it was in the movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales."
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:15 PM

QUOTE (Potomophobia @ Sunday, July 27th, 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bob,

I have always respected you. You are one hell of a moderator.....and more important...... one of the finest human beings it has ever been my pleasure to deal with.

But please, as someone once said, maybe it was Clint Eastwood....... don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

The only thing that Poker Stars is going to guarantee is their profits. They will do nothing for the average poker player except lessen their chances of winning anything meaningful.

More suckers, more rake....... hence more profit for PS.

Wait..... it wasn't Clint who said it, but it was in the movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales."



but more players mean more dead money so it works for everyone!

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Potomophobia @ Sunday, July 27th, 2008, 12:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bob,

I have always respected you. You are one hell of a moderator.....and more important...... one of the finest human beings it has ever been my pleasure to deal with.

But please, as someone once said, maybe it was Clint Eastwood....... don't piss down my leg and tell me it's raining.

The only thing that Poker Stars is going to guarantee is their profits. They will do nothing for the average poker player except lessen their chances of winning anything meaningful.

More suckers, more rake....... hence more profit for PS.

Wait..... it wasn't Clint who said it, but it was in the movie "The Outlaw Josey Wales."


Well of course they do it to increase their business.

It's called capitalism and by offering guarantees they will have larger fields and larger fields mean more revenue.

If more people are entering tournaments that means that a site is giving more people what they think that they want and isn't that what business is supposed to be all about, giving your customers what they want and making a profit by doing so.
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Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:35 PM

QUOTE (FCP Bob @ Sunday, July 27th, 2008, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well of course they do it to increase their business.

It's called capitalism and by offering guarantees they will have larger fields and larger fields mean more revenue.

If more people are entering tournaments that means that a site is giving more people what they think that they want and isn't that what business is supposed to be all about, giving your customers what they want and making a profit by doing so.


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Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:39 PM

I just wish they'd pay out more places so I can lower my variance.

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Posted 26 July 2008 - 08:42 PM

QUOTE (troyomac @ Saturday, July 26th, 2008, 9:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I just wish they'd pay out more places so I can lower my variance.

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