Tt In The Sb Vs. 3-bet From A Super Lag

[AimHigher 0]

LiveNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t25/t505 playersHero ~5.2kCO ~5.4kButton ~5kPreflop (5 players) Hero is SB with 1 fold, CO raises to t200, Button raises t1000, Hero??The CO was actually me. I had been raising at least once per orbit and this was about the third orbit. This was probably my 4th or 5th raise and I was the most active player.The button was a VERY loose aggressive player. He had called off half of his stack ultra light in the previous game after I 3-bet shoved on him. He had 3-bet a LP raiser with KQ in a later hand as well. On a different hand he'd also 3-barrel bluffed against a tight-weak player with KQ on a 86644 three club board. He didn't really pay much attention to stack sizes or position and had a bad habit of overbet leading into preflop raisers who would've c-bet when he flopped big. He didn't really like to fold and tended to fall in love with paint.Hero has a long history with the button and knows his 3-betting range is very wide, he would consider it something like any broadway any pair.

[copernicus 0]

sounds like youre way ahead of his range, but you dont want to play this hand post flop OOP. Id reraise to 2500 and call a push back.

[Sheiky 0]

Given how wide the button's 3-betting range is, I think shovin there with tens is probably standard.

[Aces Rule 0]

From your discription the villian attempts to bully and run-over the table so I doubt a re-r to 2500 or 3000 is going to get his attention - it's a shove or fold imo.

[copernicus 0]

From your discription the villian attempts to bully and run-over the table so I doubt a re-r to 2500 or 3000 is going to get his attention - it's a shove or fold imo.

Im not sure what you mean by "get his attention". We are trying to induce a reraise from him or at least a call, because we think were winning. A shove reduces this hand to a bluff, and it has more value than that. If he folds to the 2500, nothing lost, since he was folding to the shove also..

[Aces Rule 0]

Im not sure what you mean by "get his attention". We are trying to induce a reraise from him or at least a call, because we think were winning. A shove reduces this hand to a bluff, and it has more value than that. If he folds to the 2500, nothing lost, since he was folding to the shove also..

TT is a good hand but vunerable to a lot - I just had a donk call my JJ re-r with KJ to bust me outta the tourney to prove my point - so I'd give this bully as much reason to fold as I can preflop. In my case the donk was getting better than 2-1 so he might have figured he was priced in but what was he doing pf raising from UTG at a full table with that shit anyway - opps I think I'm still on tilt..

[MovingIn 0]

This reads like you were looking for a reason to repop, that you shoved, and that he called and showed you were dominated. Maybe not, but either way, given your lengthy postscript, it seems clear you absolutely believed in playing back at him. If so, follow your reads and don't worry about anything other than learning from what happens next.Now, that said, if you had raised every orbit, you were pretty much setting his play up, as this loose-aggressive guy had to know you were going to raise again. And when you did it when he was on the button, well....If you think he's playing unpaired paint or he's totally bluffing and you want to race, go ahead and repop.

[AimHigher 0]

This reads like you were looking for a reason to repop, that you shoved, and that he called and showed you were dominated. Maybe not, but either way, given your lengthy postscript, it seems clear you absolutely believed in playing back at him. If so, follow your reads and don't worry about anything other than learning from what happens next.Now, that said, if you had raised every orbit, you were pretty much setting his play up, as this loose-aggressive guy had to know you were going to raise again. And when you did it when he was on the button, well....If you think he's playing unpaired paint or he's totally bluffing and you want to race, go ahead and repop.

I think you misread the original post, I was actually in the CO and had opened with JTo. The hero was in the SB with TT. But you are right, I do think it's a good idea to ship on him with TT. Since I was posting it for a friend I did want to include as much info as possible. But obviously I am slightly biased. I think without reads it's a very standard fold.As it played out, Hero shoved and I folded, but as I mucked my hand the T clipped one of the cards in the muck and flipped face up. The Villain called with AA. Flop came QQQ, turn 5, River case T. (LOL)One interesting fact is that the Villain had not been playing at me very much, but when he 3-bet me from the button he smirked at me as he said "Raise". The Hero didn't see it though, so I didn't include it.