Kk82ds Doublestacks

[BudBundy 0]

Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $61.80CO: $268.80Button: $436.05SB: $32.30Hero: $200Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with K K 8 2 UTG calls, CO raises to $3, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.Flop: J 4 2 ($12.5, 4 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $12.5, Button folds, Hero calls, UTG calls.Turn: 9 ($50, 3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $50, HeroCo is 53/13/2.36 over 100 hands only1)3-bet preflop OOP with these kings?2)Check raise flop?3)Lead turn? Call turn? Check raise turn?Feel free to add any other thoughts than the questions.

[bdc30 0]

1) No2) Yes3) No, No, Yes

[Shark527 0]

I would put him on a set betting into the whole table. You have half the suits in the deck for 2nd nuts and if he does have a set, 2 more outs for hitting your KK, unless he has some sort of 9TJQ hand.Would it be better to flat call turn and hope for an additional caller to bloat pot since we have such huge outs?

[simo_8ball 1]

1) Yes2) Yes3) No, No, Yes

[BudBundy 0]

Would you guys mind giving some explanation with your answers?

[simo_8ball 1]

KK82ds is a hand that flops pretty well usually, and you have an equity edge preflop. That's why I like 3betting.On the flop you have KK, a pair, and a flush draw. Plus a bdfd. He can be potting a lot of hands there that you are way ahead of, and there just aren't many that have you in trouble. AA+FD is pretty much the only hand where he's way ahead.I don't mind c/c the turn but with that many outs I don't mind shoving. C/c is actually probably better but I just don't like being passive with monster non nut draws OOP. It's so hard to play any river.

[BudBundy 0]

KK82ds is a hand that flops pretty well usually, and you have an equity edge preflop. That's why I like 3betting. This , i wasn't very sure of. That's one of the reasons i am posting this hand. Is KK82ds really that good in a multiway pot? 82 is just worthless. If i don't flop a K , the best i can hope for is this flop , overpair + 2 nut FD , which is rarely a good favoruite in a multiway pot. On the flop you have KK, a pair, and a flush draw. Plus a bdfd. He can be potting a lot of hands there that you are way ahead of, and there just aren't many that have you in trouble. AA+FD is pretty much the only hand where he's way ahead.On flop, by CR'ing , am i not pushing dominated hands off the hand and isolating myself against the favourite hands only?I don't mind c/c the turn but with that many outs I don't mind shoving. C/c is actually probably better but I just don't like being passive with monster non nut draws OOP. It's so hard to play any river.Turn , i agree with pushing just to avoid the pain of playing any river.

[bdc30 0]

While I'm not surprised at Simo wanting to 3bet it preflop ( ) I just think that even though we're deep if we 3bet and it comes back to us 4bet for the full pot, it's going to put us in an awkward spot postflop if we call.On that kind of a flop, I'm willing to get some money in. I think a lot of hands that you're in good shape against will stack off here.Same goes on the turn when you pick up the double flush draw.

[BudBundy 0]

While I'm not surprised at Simo wanting to 3bet it preflop ( ) I just think that even though we're deep if we 3bet and it comes back to us 4bet for the full pot, it's going to put us in an awkward spot postflop if we call.On that kind of a flop, I'm willing to get some money in. I think a lot of hands that you're in good shape against will stack off here.Same goes on the turn when you pick up the double flush draw.

Like which hands?