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[Comatose_Soul]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) converterBB ($10.70)UTG ($10.05)Hero ($25.70)MP1 ($25.50)MP2 ($12)MP3 ($26.55)CO ($11.65)Button ($10.40)SB ($36)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Qs, Qh. 1 fold.Flop: ($4.25) Ts, 3s, 6c (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4, Button folds, SB folds.Turn: ($12.25) 7h (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $6, MP1 calls $6.River: ($36.25) 9s (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $8.5 (All-In), Hero calls $8.50.Final Pot: $53.25Results in white below: Hero has Qs Qh (one pair, queens). MP1 has 9d 7c (two pair, nines and sevens). Outcome: MP1 wins $53.25.

[Swift_Psycho]

You should be all in on the turn actually.

[otnemem]

[quote name='Comatose_Soul]PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em' date=' $0.25 BB (9 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"']converter[/url]BB ($10.70)UTG ($10.05)Hero ($25.70)MP1 ($25.50)MP2 ($12)MP3 ($26.55)CO ($11.65)Button ($10.40)SB ($36)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Qs, Qh. 1 fold.Flop: ($4.25) Ts, 3s, 6c (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, MP1 calls $4, Button folds, SB folds.Turn: ($12.25) 7h (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $6, MP1 calls $6.River: ($36.25) 9s (2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $8.5 (All-In), Hero calls $8.50.Final Pot: $53.25Results in white below: Hero has Qs Qh (one pair, queens). MP1 has 9d 7c (two pair, nines and sevens). Outcome: MP1 wins $53.25. The turn bet is absolutely horrendous. Do you honestly think Queens are strong enough against this board to check-minraise? This is a horrible place to make this raise.

[Comatose_Soul]

otnemem said:

The turn bet is absolutely horrendous. Do you honestly think Queens are strong enough against this board to check-minraise? This is a horrible place to make this raise.

How do you play it on the turn?I did not put him on Aces or Kings. This table was coming over the top of any raise with a hand like that. Cold calling the flop bet, made me think he caught a piece, but not much:A10K10Maybe JJLess likely:A3A6Least likely:8910636What hands do you put him on at the turn, and what is your play? All-in? Check-call? Check-all-in? Check-fold?

[Comatose_Soul]

XXEddie said:

Swift_Psycho said:

You should be all in on the turn actually.

agreedthat was a weak ass raise to, never raise the minimum in NL

So your fine with the check-raise if the raise is up to $20 opposed to $12?

[Comatose_Soul]

XXEddie said:

....since im not even sure you had 20 left...go allin before hes nearly pot commited, dont check...go allin

Prior to any of the betting on the turn:I had $20.70He had $20.50Pushing in seems to be the consensus.

[Nutcracker]

The board is pretty draw heavy. All in on the turn is larger than pot size, but any decent size bet is gonna commit you both anyway, so an overbet is fine. Push in on the turn.

[otnemem]

Comatose_Soul said:

otnemem said:

The turn bet is absolutely horrendous. Do you honestly think Queens are strong enough against this board to check-minraise? This is a horrible place to make this raise.

How do you play it on the turn?I did not put him on Aces or Kings. This table was coming over the top of any raise with a hand like that. Cold calling the flop bet, made me think he caught a piece, but not much:A10K10Maybe JJLess likely:A3A6Least likely:8910636What hands do you put him on at the turn, and what is your play? All-in? Check-call? Check-all-in? Check-fold?

IMO you have two options - check raise all in or lead out with a 3/4 to pot sized bet. He's a 4:1 dog, and by check min raising you're giving him close to 5:1 on a call, making it an easy call on his part. You need to put more pressure on him.