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#1 Nopair3high

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 12:39 PM

25 players left in a $2 buy in tourney on stars.

Blinds 1k/2k, I have roughly 70k, QQ in the small blind, 2nd position raises to 6k. He's a big stack with 140k, playing a lot of pots and picking on the short stacks effectively. Cut off moves all in for about 32k. No real read on him other than he's the short stack at the table and has moved in a few times to get back to 32k.

What's my best play?

To me this is either a move in to isolate or fold situation... thoughts?

Edit: Whoops, I didn't mean to title this thread that. lol
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 12:43 PM

I think I move all in here everyday and twice on sundays.

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 12:52 PM

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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:07 PM

I would go all in all the time.


Depending on the player i think they have ace/rag here
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:14 PM

2nd position I guess would be UTG+1. Ace rag could be in his range but very unlikely. He would have to be absolutely terrible. But with the big stack he could be raising Mid suited connectors, AT+, any pair, it's just very dangerous to try to put someone on a specific hand with so little information.

That being said, you are ahead of his range and I would probably try to isolate here as well. There are only two hands that you hate to see and that is AA and KK obv. Ideally they are sharing an ace and if the big stack comes along hopefully he has AQ. If someone has AK, they are coming too and you are flipping with them.

Judging by the title, the big stack woke up with AA or KK. But that is such a small part of his range that when he does have it, you just have to say gg.

Thats my thought process, and no, I can't get away from it.
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:21 PM

As long as JJ+ and AK are in his range then its an easy call. If you cant include JJ then its a fold (all assuming the EP raiser folds). I doubt whether pusher is that tight, and you still have some chips if you lose, so its pretty much a no brainer call.
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Posted 18 July 2008 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Poker Addict @ Friday, July 18th, 2008, 5:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2nd position I guess would be UTG+1. Ace rag could be in his range but very unlikely. He would have to be absolutely terrible. But with the big stack he could be raising Mid suited connectors, AT+, any pair, it's just very dangerous to try to put someone on a specific hand with so little information.

That being said, you are ahead of his range and I would probably try to isolate here as well. There are only two hands that you hate to see and that is AA and KK obv. Ideally they are sharing an ace and if the big stack comes along hopefully he has AQ. If someone has AK, they are coming too and you are flipping with them.

Judging by the title, the big stack woke up with AA or KK. But that is such a small part of his range that when he does have it, you just have to say gg.

Thats my thought process, and no, I can't get away from it.


Good call... hence my after the fact edit that I meant to change that title before I posted it. I moved in, big stack had AA and gg me. I'm just curious but does anyone see folding and waiting for a better spot as a viable option. I did debate folding it for a few reasons. I was comfortable with my chip stack in relation to the blinds, if I lose the pot to the short stack it knocks me into the bottom two spots and then I'm in bad shape. If I isolate and knock him out it doesn't move me up a huge chunk in the standings, basically i'd move from 15th to 13th and if I do move in here and the big stack has a legitimate hand here I'm out of the tourney, when I could probably pick a better spot against someone who can't bust me... lol.. and believe it or not. i kind of just had this bad feeling in my gut when I was debating it that original raiser had a monster. Should've trusted my gut on that one, but I dunno.. I probably made the right play regardless just at the wrong time
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