bigcoled 1 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 No reads, $11 deepstack tourney....lots of limping going on....Is this correct?****EDIT**** I will letter hands for easier replys... A.)PokerStars Game #18789318744: Tournament #94924264, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/07/13 - 12:23:05 (ET)Table '94924264 79' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: CHERYLTIME (5125 in chips) Seat 2: KOBRA67 (4340 in chips) Seat 3: kickapoocole (5195 in chips) Seat 4: ShugJordan (4890 in chips) Seat 5: bimi1974 (5050 in chips) Seat 6: march44bc (5350 in chips) Seat 7: SnoopyBR (4760 in chips) Seat 8: Sthil123 (5200 in chips) Seat 9: Derelictica1 (5090 in chips) bimi1974: posts small blind 10march44bc: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to kickapoocole [Tc As]SnoopyBR: folds Sthil123: folds Derelictica1: calls 20CHERYLTIME: calls 20KOBRA67: calls 20kickapoocole: folds ShugJordan: folds bimi1974: folds march44bc: checks How about this?B.)PokerStars Game #18789286060: Tournament #94924264, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/07/13 - 12:21:42 (ET)Table '94924264 79' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: CHERYLTIME (5090 in chips) Seat 2: KOBRA67 (4340 in chips) Seat 3: kickapoocole (5160 in chips) Seat 4: ShugJordan (4900 in chips) Seat 5: bimi1974 (5070 in chips) Seat 6: march44bc (5370 in chips) Seat 7: SnoopyBR (4760 in chips) Seat 8: Sthil123 (5200 in chips) Seat 9: Derelictica1 (5110 in chips) ShugJordan: posts small blind 10bimi1974: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to kickapoocole [Jc Ah]march44bc: calls 20SnoopyBR: folds Sthil123: folds Derelictica1: calls 20CHERYLTIME: calls 20KOBRA67: folds KOBRA67 is sitting outkickapoocole: raises 100 to 120ShugJordan: folds bimi1974: folds march44bc: folds Derelictica1: folds CHERYLTIME: calls 100I'm very interested in getting feedback here... were both correct? Are there better plays I should be making? One hand better than the other? BOth terrible? And please elaborate, I'm in student mode.... Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Same tourney....C.)PokerStars Game #18789418358: Tournament #94924264, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/07/13 - 12:27:27 (ET)Table '94924264 79' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: CHERYLTIME (5105 in chips) Seat 2: KOBRA67 (4450 in chips) Seat 3: kickapoocole (5195 in chips) Seat 4: ShugJordan (4890 in chips) Seat 5: bimi1974 (5040 in chips) Seat 6: march44bc (5270 in chips) Seat 7: SnoopyBR (4780 in chips) Seat 8: Sthil123 (5220 in chips) Seat 9: Derelictica1 (5050 in chips) Derelictica1: posts small blind 10CHERYLTIME: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to kickapoocole [8s 8h]KOBRA67: folds kickapoocole: calls 20ShugJordan: folds bimi1974: raises 80 to 100march44bc: folds SnoopyBR: folds Sthil123: folds Derelictica1: folds CHERYLTIME: folds kickapoocole: folds Uncalled bet (80) returned to bimi1974bimi1974 collected 70 from potbimi1974: doesn't show hand Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 A major misplay?She had called a 5x raise preflop w/ AJ off. Irregardless of her hand, I should fold this preflop right?D.)PokerStars Game #18789494817: Tournament #94924264, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/13 - 12:31:07 (ET)Table '94924264 79' 9-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: CHERYLTIME (4955 in chips) Seat 2: KOBRA67 (4745 in chips) Seat 3: kickapoocole (5140 in chips) Seat 4: ShugJordan (4860 in chips) Seat 5: bimi1974 (5090 in chips) Seat 6: march44bc (5200 in chips) Seat 7: SnoopyBR (4750 in chips) Seat 8: Sthil123 (5220 in chips) Seat 9: Derelictica1 (5040 in chips) ShugJordan: posts small blind 15bimi1974: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to kickapoocole [Jh Jd]march44bc: calls 30SnoopyBR: folds Sthil123: folds Derelictica1: calls 30CHERYLTIME: raises 60 to 90KOBRA67: calls 90kickapoocole: raises 300 to 390ShugJordan: folds bimi1974: folds march44bc: folds Derelictica1: folds CHERYLTIME: raises 300 to 690KOBRA67: folds kickapoocole: calls 300*** FLOP *** [2c 8c Kh]CHERYLTIME: checks kickapoocole: bets 900KOBRA67 is sitting outCHERYLTIME: calls 900*** TURN *** [2c 8c Kh] [As]CHERYLTIME: checks kickapoocole: bets 1675CHERYLTIME: calls 1675*** RIVER *** [2c 8c Kh As] [Ad]CHERYLTIME: checks kickapoocole: checks *** SHOW DOWN ***CHERYLTIME: shows [8h 8s] (a full house, Eights full of Aces)kickapoocole: mucks hand CHERYLTIME collected 6725 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 6725 | Rake 0 Board [2c 8c Kh As Ad]Seat 1: CHERYLTIME showed [8h 8s] and won (6725) with a full house, Eights full of AcesSeat 2: KOBRA67 folded before FlopSeat 3: kickapoocole (button) mucked [Jh Jd]Seat 4: ShugJordan (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: bimi1974 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: march44bc folded before FlopSeat 7: SnoopyBR folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: Sthil123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: Derelictica1 folded before Flop Link to post Share on other sites
bigcoled 1 Posted July 13, 2008 Author Share Posted July 13, 2008 Is this the right play from the SB?E.)PokerStars Game #18789861895: Tournament #94924264, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/07/13 - 12:48:47 (ET)Table '94924264 79' 9-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: CHERYLTIME (6450 in chips) Seat 3: kickapoocole (2250 in chips) Seat 4: ShugJordan (7125 in chips) Seat 5: bimi1974 (5000 in chips) Seat 6: march44bc (6900 in chips) Seat 7: SnoopyBR (7045 in chips) is sitting outSeat 8: Sthil123 (5205 in chips) Seat 9: Derelictica1 (5025 in chips) kickapoocole: posts small blind 15ShugJordan: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to kickapoocole [Jh Jd]bimi1974: folds march44bc: calls 30SnoopyBR: folds Sthil123: folds Derelictica1: folds CHERYLTIME: calls 30kickapoocole: raises 180 to 210ShugJordan: folds march44bc: folds CHERYLTIME: folds Uncalled bet (180) returned to kickapoocolekickapoocole collected 120 from potkickapoocole: doesn't show hand Link to post Share on other sites
irishguy 14 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 A) I think given your pos folding is weak. I don't mind a call here and I think a raise is okB) Is standard. C) I'm raising pre. As played given stacks this is a call %1000 pf the timeD) As played pre you need to shut it down after your flop bet E) Standard. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 A) I fold too, no need to play it there.B) Yup.C)Raise pre, and call a 3 bet that gives you set odds still. As played DEFINITELY call that raise.D)Turn bets awful awful. E)Yeah, maybe 30 chips too much, maybe not depending on table. It's all good. Link to post Share on other sites
TravisG 0 Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 A) I fold this. I think raising and playing properly postflop is +EV but pretty high variance without reads. You can save your 300 chips or whatever for 2 rounds of waiting for AA later.B) Now this is an easy raise. Them limping again means loose-donks. You probably get some really good value out of TP-like hands. 120 is fine.C) Open raise and call a reraise if not too big (like up to 250). Set mining is great here and you're stacking any overpair or hit-AK if you hit. D) Pot odds say see flop and reevaluate. Try to play pot control and use probing bets, but keep out of trouble. Too tired to comment on postflop play.E) I bet 150. I want callers here. Link to post Share on other sites
Biff Goods 0 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 A) after reading your post flop play on hand D) I agree with your fold here considering you are not very strong post flop player. B) StandardC) again i would raise and stay away from the open limping. It will +ev for you to take pots down pf and with c-bets. D) Ugh. I don't mind the re-raise pf on the button with what rates to be the best hand. but 1) I would consider folding to the 4-bet pf and definitely shut down when the K hits. E) Standard Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'd raise the first one also. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 I would hate the turn but on the JJ hand on any card except an A. Unless he has a set or AK, hard for him to call that bet. Obv shut down on the river though.I dont get this though. You re-raise preflop with JJ. But limp/fold 88???? Very weak fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Bad Muscle 0 Posted July 16, 2008 Share Posted July 16, 2008 A) With this position I am at least calling. Most likely I might even 4x it here to since a lot of limping is going on.B) StandardC) If your going to play 88 from that position get the first raise in and then find out how strong you think the other players hands are from their reaction to your bet.D) I definitely cbet this flop but I shut down on the turn and river for sure. Turn card is grossly bad especially if he was flush chasing Axc.E) You vs limpers and blinds? I think you bet to much here. 150 is the mark I'd go for. Link to post Share on other sites
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