siquinte 0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 PokerStars Game #18711731459: Tournament #94923243, $2.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2008/07/10 - 02:03:10 (ET)Table '94923243 35' 9-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: koops43 (9035 in chips) Seat 2: siquinte (1771 in chips) Seat 3: Low_Fuel (12520 in chips) Seat 4: bigunit00 (8475 in chips) Seat 6: Sixfingers (10093 in chips) Seat 7: m_grobles (4870 in chips) Seat 8: freddiebii (4814 in chips) Seat 9: Potatoe Sacc (13611 in chips) koops43: posts the ante 25siquinte: posts the ante 25Low_Fuel: posts the ante 25bigunit00: posts the ante 25Sixfingers: posts the ante 25m_grobles: posts the ante 25freddiebii: posts the ante 25Potatoe Sacc: posts the ante 25Low_Fuel: posts small blind 150bigunit00: posts big blind 300*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to siquinte [7d 6c]Sixfingers: calls 300m_grobles: calls 300freddiebii: calls 300Potatoe Sacc is disconnected melchman89 is connected Potatoe Sacc has timed out while disconnectedPotatoe Sacc: folds Potatoe Sacc is sitting outkoops43: folds Hero?I just made the money on this tournament and i've been card dead for like half an hour, i have 1700 and the pot has 1500 in it already, so is this a good place to push? Link to post Share on other sites
chrispycream 0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I think you can find a better spot with more fold equity. I don't hate the shove, but I think it would be better to enter the post first to make a stand Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 I just made the money on this tournament and i've been card dead for like half an hour, i have 1700 and the pot has 1500 in it already, so is this a good place to push? Off the top, let me say that shoving here isn't horrible, but only because your stack is very short with blinds and antes being what they are. But I probably don't shove here.You shouldn't be thinking so much about your stack size in relation to the amount of chips in the pot here. You should be more worried about the number of opponents already in the pot. It's going to be extremely hard to fold any of them. Good news for you if you manage to win the hand obviously, but you might be putting yourself in a spot where you're chances of winning the pot are very thin.Let's say you get three callers, with so-so holdings of:AToJTo55This would be probably the best you could expect, and you would be just under 20 percent to win the hand. Change JT to JQ and the 5s to 8s and your down to just under 13 percent.Let's say you wait and later it folds to you and you pick up 7s6s and you shove into the bb, who wakes up with AKo. Your chances of having your hand hold up are 42 percent. Clearly, despite your meager stack, you should try to wait for an opportunity to either pick up a better hand or face off against fewer opponents. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 very little FE, wait for first in vig. Link to post Share on other sites
UncleHoot 0 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 Shove 1/3 of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted July 10, 2008 Share Posted July 10, 2008 It's either this hand or the next, I suppose... Link to post Share on other sites
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