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[wrto4556]

BB is a very tricky very aggressive player. I really enjoy playing with him because it's fun playing against a tricky player.Against most players, I raise on the button about 80% of the time. some only 50% some 100%. I raise his blind about 70% of the time.preflop: I get delt 8 6 on the Button.I raise, BB 3-bets, I call.Good players will 3-bet to let you know that you can't rise their blind constantly. It doesn't have to be a good hand, just to let other players know..."hey, back off...this trout bits back."Flop: J 6 4 BB bets, I call.Turn: 2 BB bets, I call.River: 5 BB bets, I call.Discuss.

[allinbluff35]

if you think you're ahead still why not raise the turn? unless you planned on calling him down to get a read on him. . .

[KDawgCometh]

I like the hand. I think I'd like a turn pop just to test him out a little. You probably have the best hand though

[wrto4556]

Keith and Dave,If I raise the turn i'm taking a free showdown if offered and folding to a 3-bet, right?

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

Keith and Dave,If I raise the turn i'm taking a free showdown if offered and folding to a 3-bet, right?

kinda goes without saying. calling him down also keeps him honest. wa/wb

[wrto4556]

That's what I was thinking. I would really hate to fold to a 3-bet from a worse pair and a straight draw or AT. He's capable of it. I also don't want him to fold a hand like AK to a raise. So I figured I would call down. Another benefit is that it's a strategy to stop bluffing. Kinda 3rd level thinking going on.I raise preflop on the button and he goes into aggro mode to tell me that I can't raise his blind all the time. Alot of people bluff just to let you know they aren't scared to play a big pot...so I used that against him and did the counter bluff strategy, or whatever.BB shows 54o and I lose.

[NickTheKid]

wrto, I swear I was thinking this before I saw the results, but I thought it woulda been best to raise the flop.

[wrto4556]

why?

[NickTheKid]

Okay well this guy 3bet pre flop right? I'd figure if he's holding any jack, it would be A-J, or J-J. You more than likely have the best hand. If you put a raise on him it not only shows you aren't messing around, but the guy would rethink his Overcards, or his 4.EDIT: sorry, I didn't mean to write bluff, it's too late for this

[wrto4556]

what about 77, 88, 99, TT, QQ, KK, AA? Those hands beat me, too and they are all 3-betting hands. So is 44 and 66(both being less likely).

[obs]

This is standard.

[NickTheKid]

Ugh, I see your point. My mistake.I totally forgot about PP's... I better go to bed.

[avsfan]

Raise the flop.

[SapphireTiger]

why dont' you raise the flop to get more info on the strength of his hand?is that why people were suggesting raising the turn?

[the_stein]

wrto4556 said:

BB is a very tricky very aggressive player. I really enjoy playing with him because it's fun playing against a tricky player.Against most players, I raise on the button about 80% of the time. some only 50% some 100%. I raise his blind about 70% of the time.preflop: I get delt 8 6  on the Button.I raise, BB 3-bets, I call.Good players will 3-bet to let you know that you can't rise their blind constantly. It doesn't have to be a good hand, just to let other players know..."hey, back off...this trout bits back."Flop: J 6 4  BB bets, I call.Turn: 2  BB bets, I call.River: 5  BB bets, I call.Discuss.

Here is how I would have played it, same way you did before the flop...Flop: raise, if he 3 bets I will call (sometimes I'll cap it)since its only one more SB, and check fold the turn if I don't improve (if I capped it and he leads on the turn I'll fold)Turn: Assuming I 3 bet and he just flat called I'll bet again. Usually I'll get called here or they fold here, but once in a while I'll get raised which would suck horribly, in that case I'll either fold now, or check/call till a showdown River: Assuming I 3 bet the flop and bet the turn, I would check now. If all of a sudden he bet now, I'd have to make a crying call.