What To Do Here?

[siquinte 0]

PokerStars Game #18639096403: Tournament #94756040, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2008/07/06 - 23:43:45 (ET)Table '94756040 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 2: helltec23 (2395 in chips) Seat 4: CharmedX68 (1080 in chips) Seat 5: kaybeenyc (2430 in chips) Seat 6: siquinte (5240 in chips) Seat 7: V3RA (1070 in chips) Seat 8: UIpokergrad (1285 in chips) kaybeenyc: posts small blind 50siquinte: posts big blind 100*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to siquinte [Qc Jh]V3RA: calls 100UIpokergrad: folds helltec23: calls 100CharmedX68: calls 100kaybeenyc: calls 50siquinte: checks *** FLOP *** [Ah 5c Jc]kaybeenyc: checks siquinte: checks V3RA: checks helltec23: checks CharmedX68: checks *** TURN *** [Ah 5c Jc] [9h]kaybeenyc: checks siquinte: bets 250V3RA: calls 250helltec23: folds CharmedX68: calls 250kaybeenyc: folds *** RIVER *** [Ah 5c Jc 9h] [Qd]Two questions.1) The table is playing a little loose, lots of limping, is it a good move to make it 600 preflop and try to take it right there, or is it a bit too crowded?2) What to do on the river, both players in the hand have few chips (like 750) so do i put them all in or just check/call?Thanks

[LJB723 0]

Preflop is fine. I assume when you say table has limped a lot that it has been limp/called. I wouldn't fancy playing QJos oop in a bloated pot.When the flop is checked round you can safely assume no one has an A because they would have bet it to protect from a flush draw (or they should anyway).Turn bet is OK, 2 callers is a bit scary but one could easily have a flushdraw and the other a 9. Worst case sceanrio is KcTc, but that's the same as being afraid of monsters in the closet.By the river pot is ~1150 and if both opponents only have ~750 then that makes that number your bet. Sigh, when at least one shows you KT.

[Sheiky 0]

Easy river shove

[jmbreslin 0]

When the flop is checked round you can safely assume no one has an A because they would have bet it to protect from a flush draw (or they should anyway).

Big assumption at $3.40. There are lots of players who won't bet their mediocre Aces here but will call down with them. I've walked into this trap many times. The problem with betting on the turn is that the 9 isn't a scare card for anyone and you'll get called by those mediocre Aces ("if he has a better Ace than I do, why didn't he bet the flop?").

[Mercury69 3]

Raising to 600 PF would likely do the trick, but you could end up against either of the two short stacks, given they've shown an interest by limping. One of them is likely to shove, which will cost you and extra 400. The bonus is that heltec will likely fold unless he's got a monster, even if V3RA shoves. You have the chipstack to screw with these guys, so why not use it? If V3RA shoves and heltec shoves over the top, you can safely fold.

[copernicus 0]

Bet the flop. The sooner you find out where you stand the better, and with 2 clubs on the board you cant represent an A if you check the flop and bet the turn. Still, once you get to the river, theres no hand the Q should have helped that didnt have you beat already except KcTc, and that hand may well have semi-bluffed the flop. Id value bet and call a shove back. You probably dont get any callers, but you may catch a Q9 or Q5 willing to see a small bet.