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[bampote]

This hand came up just as I was about to leave the table. The player on my left had just shown up, and the player to his left was a maniac, raising and reraising with no pair, no draw.Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: bampote is UTG with [Ac], [As]. bampote raises, UTG+1 =#A500AF(No read)/ calls, UTG+2 =#A500AF(Maniac)/ calls.Flop: (13.50 SB) [8h], [6c], [5s] (3 players)bampote bets, bampote calls, No read calls.The cap here makes me think that he could have a set, so I decide to slow down. No idea what the in between guy has.Turn: (12.75 BB) [Kh] (3 players)bampote checks, No read checks, Maniac bets, bampote calls, No read calls.Still thinking a set...was I giving him too much credit not to bet this?River: (15.75 BB) [9h] (3 players)bampote checks, No read checks, Maniac checks.Now there's 3 to a flush, so I check it down. When I see the maniac check, I'm pretty sure I've got the best hand (not that it matters... results are below if you want to see if I was right). Should I have bet this river?Final Pot: 15.75 BBResults in white below: bampote has Ac As (one pair, aces). No read has 7h Ah (flush, ace high). Maniac has Td Th (one pair, tens). Outcome: No read wins 15.75 BB.

[Vade]

I'm putting in one more raise on the turn, then going into check/call mode.Otherwise NH

[Swift_Psycho]

Lead out on the turn and then slow down if raised yet again. Check/call the river with a 4-card straight and 3-card flush out there.

[HoosierAlum]

I also raise the turn. Kinda forced to check/call the river. Open ended straight got there, as did the backdoor flush. You have to check call considering you are first to act here.

[RISEorFall]

AA against a maniac, I'd bet and raise as you're ahead way more often than not. the only thing that worries me is the others in the hand. Staying aggressive may knock them out leaving you heads up. If they stay, slow down. I might just check/call the river b/c it's too easy for maniac to have accidentally hit a draw, but I still might keep firing, just depends on my feel of the hand. Stay aggressive on the turn, tho.

[KDawgCometh]

cr that turn, get this hand HU against the maniac. There are draws out on the board, and the guy in between has been real passive here, so ou need to cut his odds down real fast. You're also giving way too much credit to the maniac

[cdddc75]

KDawgCometh said:

cr that turn, get this hand HU against the maniac. There are draws out on the board, and the guy in between has been real passive here, so ou need to cut his odds down real fast. You're also giving way too much credit to the maniac

Exactly.It wouldn't have worked in this case since No Read had OESD + nut flush draw, but c/r the turn would help isolate against a passive player with one of those draws.I'll go a step further and suggest that you may have been better off by just calling the flop raise so that a turn c/r would better protect your hand.Check/call the river.

[bampote]

First of all, I want to thank everyone for the advice. I can definitely see where the C/R on the turn would have been the strongest move. Also, I had the intention of calling on the river if it had been bet (although thank God it wasn't, or it probably would have cost me another 2 BB when No Read C/red it.) However, I'm a little curious about this advice:

cdddc75 said:

I'll go a step further and suggest that you may have been better off by just calling the flop raise so that a turn c/r would better protect your hand.

Now, when I capped it pre-flop, I was hoping to knock out No Read and get it heads up against the maniac. I figured he would definitely call one more bet, but two more might get him out. Is that totally off base?