wrto4556 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 UTG is loose/passive.CO is semi-loose/aggressive...he's pretty tricky.10/20 at superior pokerI get delt A 4 in MP2.UTG limps, I limp, CO raises, UTG calls, I call.Flop is 6 2 7 UTG checks, I check, CO bets, UTG folds, I call.Turn is 5 I check, CO bets, I call.River is 8 ...bet or check/raise? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 PS. Anyone not like the limp preflop? Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 how passive all the way Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Yeah, it's not like you to not check-raise the flop.Bet the river Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 why would I check raise this flop? Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 why would I check raise this flop?You don't. I'd check/raise if UTG stayed in, but flop call is fine I think.10/20 eh? Move up? I think that you've pretty much set this up for a check/raise all the way by playing this passively so might as well go for it. That is unless you feel that this guy isn't loose enough to bet a pair on a 4-card straight board. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 actually, it might be a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 To avoid being passive? It looks like a calling station playing it this way no? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 To avoid being passive? It looks like a calling station playing it this way no?That shouldn't matter. It's whatever is the best play...that's goofy. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 yeah C/Ring the flop is best if UTG calls. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Author Share Posted May 10, 2005 why would I check raise this flop?You don't. I'd check/raise if UTG stayed in, but flop call is fine I think.10/20 eh? Move up? I think that you've pretty much set this up for a check/raise all the way by playing this passively so might as well go for it. That is unless you feel that this guy isn't loose enough to bet a pair on a 4-card straight board.My normal game is anywhere from 2/4 to 3/6. I was just taking a shot at 10/20. I dropped $140 and cam back to my senses.Wouldn't a c/r be good if we could get AK to fold the turn UI?EDIT: Normal game=2/4 to 5/10 Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 I don't understand why you didn't check/raise the river. Playing scared maybe?Preflop, the limp is fine. You're hoping to get a multiway pot going, the CO just ruined that plan for you.I like the check/call on the flop as HU you don't want to raise and there is no way you can trap UTG for a bet by leading.What about a check/raise on the turn as a reasonable semibluff? An UI AX would be hard pressed to call both on the turn and UI on the river if you follow through with a blank. Even if you can't get out a hand like that you have at least 15 outs to improve to a straight or a flush that should win. You may have 3 more outs with an A vs. an overpair, or 3 more outs with a 4 vs UI AX. The only real problem is if you get 3-bet, but once again you have a lot of outs even if this happens.Zara Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Bet the river, there's 4 to a straight out there. Even if he does for some reason bet after you check without the straight, I don't see him calling your raise without it so you still only get 1 big bet out of it. There's definately alot better chance that he calls if you bet out there. You got the straight, get some value out of it so that he doesn't check behind you. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 Bet the river, there's 4 to a straight out there. Even if you does for some reason bet after you check without the straight, I don't see him calling your raise without it so you still only get 1 big bet out of it. There's definately alot better chance that he calls if you bet out there. You got the straight, get some value out of it so that he doesn't check behind you.Good point, but I think it's quite possible the other guy has something like an UI AK or KQ is making one last effort to steal the pot. He won't check there. I think you'll catch the player bluffing more often than making a crying call (especially since this is 10/20 so the ability levels are generally much higher)Zara Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 gaybet his ass. I'd be willing to cr the flop to Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 10, 2005 Share Posted May 10, 2005 gaybet his ass. I'd be willing to cr the flop towhoo someone agrees with me Link to post Share on other sites
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