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#1 SuitedAces21

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 08:09 AM

So I recently started downloading some Led Zeppelin and obviously I was very impressed with "Stariway To Heaven". I was looking up the lyrics when I came across this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairway_to_Heaven

I was reading about the origins and all that when I got down to the end of the page and the "backmasking" controversy. They have an audio clip of the song playing backwards and I gotta tell you, it sounds to me like the lyrics they have listed. I guess Im just curious about your opinions on this thing. I had heard reference to this, but never really paid attention or investigated.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 08:21 AM

wrong forum, can a mod move this for me, please k thnx.

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 10:27 AM

Well, I have to say, if you hadn't heard what those words were supposed to be, and had just heard the backmasking, there's just no way you would have been able to come up with those words on your own, except for maybe one sweet satan.




Also, I think the much more interesting part of your link was the part talking about the blatant plagiarism of Spirit's Taurus is more disturbing, and something I did not know about

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Posted 19 June 2008 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Thursday, June 19th, 2008, 2:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I have to say, if you hadn't heard what those words were supposed to be, and had just heard the backmasking, there's just no way you would have been able to come up with those words on your own, except for maybe one sweet satan.
Also, I think the much more interesting part of your link was the part talking about the blatant plagiarism of Spirit's Taurus is more disturbing, and something I did not know about


1. I think you may be right. I read the words before I listened to the backmasking. I had my brother listen without knowing the words and all he heard was satan.

2. Yes, that was rather interesting.

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 02:21 PM

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 08:27 PM

Even more blatant was how they ripped off Dazed and Confused

Supposedly on Sgt Pepper it says "we'll f you like supermen" or something like that

the only real one I know of is a pink floyd track that says "Congratulations you've found the secret message"

Although I did watch the linked up version of Dark Side with the Wizard of Oz and it was pretty amusing

See also all the Paul is Dead clues - fun but absurd

Bill Hicks has a great routine about how Judas Priest decided that they hated being rock stars and decided to put suicide messages in their music

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:25 PM

Not for nothing but Robert Plant or one of the LZ guys bought the house that Allister Crowley wrote the Book of Satan too.


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Posted 23 June 2008 - 09:43 PM

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not for nothing but Robert Plant or one of the LZ guys bought the house that Allister Crowley wrote the Book of Satan too.
Hmmmm


that was jimmy page

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Posted 23 June 2008 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 9:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not for nothing but Robert Plant or one of the LZ guys bought the house that Allister Crowley wrote the Book of Satan too.
Hmmmm



It was Jimmy Page for certain, he was into all kinds of weird Magic.



And Crowley didn't ever write anything called " the book of satan" for the record. He wrote a bunch of retarded magic books, but none of it was "satanic'. Unless, of course, you believe any magical book would be inherently satanic. Mostly Crowley was just a charlatan, com man, drug addict and a fraud.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:12 AM

QUOTE (keith crime @ Monday, June 23rd, 2008, 11:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the only real one I know of is a pink floyd track


That one is real, and another real one is at the beginning of ELO's "Fire On High", there is a back masked phrase "The music is reversible, but time is not." I'm sure there are others included in music, mainly in response to the controversy.

One of these kooks came around to my college back in the 80s, playing all the alleged evil messages in music. Half the audience sat there with glassy stares and took it in, and the other half giggled at the stupidity. It even included recordings of *live* music. So apparently, whatever band it was was so evil that they learned how to say words backward and forward *at the same time* in a live concert.

Of course, backward it actually sounded like "mmefrred hgreefes fesefhgvbx", but to their active imagination it sounded like "Satan is our leader" or something like that.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:33 PM

It's not even Zep's best song by a long shot...
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 1:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not even Zep's best song by a long shot...


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Posted 24 June 2008 - 01:13 PM

QUOTE (Mercury69 @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 4:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's not even Zep's best song by a long shot...



QUOTE (copernicus @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 4:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
^^^^



I disagree. But what do you think is?

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (SuitedAces21 @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 2:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I disagree. But what do you think is?


Many!

Off the top of my head, Dazed and Confused, No Quarter, Trampled Under Foot, Black Dog, How Many More Times, Communication Breakdown, The Song Remains the Same

For some somewhat obscure LZ trivia though: what was the first #1 hit Jimmy Page played on?
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 05:05 PM

led zepplin: not that great

and stairway is one of their best songs

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 5:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
led zepplin: not that great

and stairway is one of their best songs

What!?!? Zep is amazing!
Stairway is definitley in their top 5 songs

But read this article about how much the song is worth
http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lifestyle...eavens-Revenues

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:01 PM

I assume it was some yardbird song was page's first number one.


The best Zep song is When the Leeve breaks.

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Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:24 PM

QUOTE (Don Giovanni @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 9:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
led zepplin: not that great

and stairway is one of their best songs



Get outta here with you and your crazy jazz : )


Seriously though, Zeppelin is right up there with the Beatles when it comes to influential/revolutionary music.


Edit: I will admit that Page is probably one of the most over rated guitarist of all time.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 08:32 PM

D'yer Maker is easily my favorite Zed Lepplin song.
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Posted 24 June 2008 - 10:49 PM

QUOTE (BigDMcGee @ Tuesday, June 24th, 2008, 9:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I assume it was some yardbird song was page's first number one.
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Nope. In fact I dont think the Yardbirds had any #1s, though I think Over Under Sideways Down is one of the greatest songs from the pyschedelic era.
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