Whats His Range Here?

[No_Neck 0]

Table: COLLEGE STATION (Real Money) Seat #1 is the dealerSeat 1 - INCOGWIZARD ($74.59 in chips)Seat 2 - ANETTED56 ($50.06 in chips)Seat 3 - OOODANNYBOY ($50 in chips)Seat 4 - ROB1954 ($20 in chips)Seat 5 - DENICIK ($76.84 in chips)Seat 6 - GAMECOTTON ($20 in chips)ANETTED56 - Posts small blind $0.25OOODANNYBOY - Posts big blind $0.50ROB1954 - sitout (wait for BB)GAMECOTTON - Posts $0.50*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to OOODANNYBOY [Ks 5h] DENICIK - Raises $1 to $1GAMECOTTON - FoldsINCOGWIZARD - Calls $1ANETTED56 - FoldsOOODANNYBOY - Folds*** FLOP *** [2d 5d 9s]DENICIK - Bets $3.25INCOGWIZARD - Raises $6.50 to $6.50DENICIK - Calls $3.25*** TURN *** [2d 5d 9s] [8s]DENICIK - Bets $3INCOGWIZARD - Raises $25.25 to $25.25DENICIK - Calls $22.25*** RIVER *** [2d 5d 9s 8s] [6h]DENICIK - ChecksINCOGWIZARD - Checks*** SHOW DOWN ***DENICIK - Shows [As Ah] (One pair, aces) INCOGWIZARD - Mucks Td 9d)DENICIK Collects $63.25 from main potTable: COLLEGE STATION (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealerSeat 2 - ANETTED56 ($49.81 in chips)Seat 3 - OOODANNYBOY ($49.50 in chips)Seat 4 - ROB1954 ($20 in chips)Seat 5 - DENICIK ($107.34 in chips)Seat 6 - GAMECOTTON ($19.50 in chips)Seat 1 - INCOGWIZARD ($41.84 in chips)OOODANNYBOY - Posts small blind $0.25ROB1954 - Posts big blind $0.50*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to OOODANNYBOY [X X] DENICIK - Folds , GAMECOTTON - Raises $1 to $1 INCOGWIZARD - Raises $2 to $2 ANETTED56 - Calls $2 OOODANNYBOY - Raises $9.25 to $9.50 ROB1954 - Folds, GAMECOTTON - Calls $8.50 INCOGWIZARD - All-In(Raise) $39.84 to $41.84ANETTED56 - Folds OOODANNYBOY - has $40 left to callThis villain plays pretty stupidly, he is a 60/15/3.6 after 227 hands, the hand above was the hand previous to this one.I know convert my hand blah i forgot my password

[simo_8ball 1]

I honestly can't read that.Against that kind of guy you should not raise to $9.5 with any hand you aren't snapcalling a shove with.His range could be pretty wide here. I'd call with TT+ and AQ+.EDIT: Actually, probably 99 too.

[No_Neck 0]

i think that makes it easier to read.... i hope.

[NoBBiR 0]

Yeah, if you're raising 20x preflop, I don't think you should be folding anything you have done that with, so hopefully it wasn't 87s or something silly.I'd say JJ+ and AK for him to shove preflop, so you should basically be calling with the range Simo has listed.

[tskillz187 0]

I think the above ranges are far too wide. He raises 15%, does he often reraise? How about 5bet? I have never seen him 5bet in my life. Donks come in different shapes and sizes, but most play too loose by limping and calling too frequently.The action here is Raise, Reraise, call, Rereraise, (back to original raiser) call, Back to original reraiser shove.That is about the strongest line someone can show. There's no reason not to put the first raiser or No_Neck on anything but 1010+. I think his range is KK and AA, and MAYBEEEE AK.This is like a Tag 5 bet shoving, what range would you put an 18/15 on?

[simo_8ball 1]

I think the above ranges are far too wide. He raises 15%, does he often reraise? How about 5bet? I have never seen him 5bet in my life. Donks come in different shapes and sizes, but most play too loose by limping and calling too frequently.The action here is Raise, Reraise, call, Rereraise, (back to original raiser) call, Back to original reraiser shove.That is about the strongest line someone can show. There's no reason not to put the first raiser or No_Neck on anything but 1010+. I think his range is KK and AA, and MAYBEEEE AK.This is like a Tag 5 bet shoving, what range would you put an 18/15 on?

This isn't like a TAG 5 bet shoving. 65/15's play pretty spewy all round.You also have to factor in that he lost a big pot last hand. If he has reraised this hand he may be pissed off and decides to tilt shove with 66 or A4 or something.We are calling $30 into what, $60?I mean, GAMECOTTON's range is fairly strong, but I'm still not folding TT there. I'd have to do some range analysis, but I just think a potentially tilting 65/15 can have a wider range than you think.

[tskillz187 0]

Are we ignorin betting tells of last hand? He minraised the flop with an absolute monster, top pair and flush draw. Probably in the hopes to get reraised and to shove. Next hand he minreraises, then gets his opportunity to get it all in and shoves.I don't even think he played the hand atrociously bad. I think a 5bet shove from a TAG is a wider range than the range this villain would have here. I think a TAG could rason that No_Neck is squeezing and do something insane.Edit: FWIW I think using his betting tells from 1 hand ago are much more substantial than trying to guess his emotions because he lost 1 hand ago. Betting tells will be accurate (he didn't know he was going to lose, he's not tilting right now) whereas possible tilt is just a guess, which I don't even think is incredibly accurate.

[simo_8ball 1]

GAMECOTTON is a shortstack who minraised, so he can honestly have a pretty wide range here. He is just adding to our equity with any hand we could have here. We are calling $30 into a pot of something like $75.The 65/15 can have more than KK+ here. I'm certain of that. He just lost a big pot, and he's pretty aggro anyway.I think if you are raise/folding here then it should be with bluffs and not with hands like TT. Against these two guys I'm pretty content getting the money in preflop.The main point stands though. If you aren't willing to call a shove, then don't 4-bet to $9.5. IMO./shrug.

[NoBBiR 0]

I don't really think 65/15/4's only show up with AA and KK when they shove, especially since I think that these kinds of players are the ones that are most prone to tilt (play every hand already anyway, so I don't think they think of much of shoving a marginal hand after losing a big pot). At the very least the guy shows up with JJ+ and AK imo, and his range is likely even wider.