CobaltBlue 662 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 The Venetian 5/10 NLHE (9-handed)Cobalt $1100SB $2000Cobalt is MP2 w/ . Just sat at the table, so no reads. Guy is getting a massage, has a lot of chips, and from his appearance seems to think he's good. Looks like he could be from Southern Europe.Pre-flop:3 folds, Cobalt raises to $40, 3 folds, SB calls, 1 foldFlop ($90): :D (2 players)SB checks, Cobalt bets $60, SB callsTurn ($210): (2 players)SB checks, Cobalt checksRiver ($210): (2 players)SB bets $160, Cobalt ? Link to post Share on other sites
Metternich 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I think we should just call. I don't think we're going to be getting any value from a worse king. Right now I think a big part of his range is a bluff, another part is 78 for the str8, and a tiny part is a weaker king. Link to post Share on other sites
BertTheKid 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 i really think this might be a bluff, or some straightthink about it: you raised preflop, and the made the obvious continuation bet( it's not bad off course)then you check the turn, which definitly indicates weaknessso on the river, he obviously thinks he can bluff you, so pay him off Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 You seem to be beating precisely nothing, but I don't think I would fold. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 You bet too much on the flop. :)I don't think there's much between folding or calling the river. He could have 45, he could be making a strange bet with A9. He may have slowplayed JJ. If as you say he seems to think he's good he could be making a weird move. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted June 14, 2008 Author Share Posted June 14, 2008 You bet too much on the flop. That's a jab, right? I do usually bet like $50-55 there, but I don't think increments of $5 were allowed. =) Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 snap goes the weasel?hard to say its, a weird bet. surely he must put you on overs for the raise/cbet/check, in which case it would be kinda crazy to bluff at the king. still seems like a call though Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 pretty similar to someone with a set letting the raiser pf keep the lead, check on the turn so hes hoping the king got there for you. But he could easily be trying to take it away seeing you check.I'm pretty suspicious but I probably make the call as we don't have any reads. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 snap goes the weasel?what does this mean? Link to post Share on other sites
SlapStick 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 what does this mean?snap call? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Looks like he could be from Southern Europe.Then instacall imo, I think against an unknown in a 5/10 game I would assume he is going to bet with all his air and the straight.... and it is hard to make straights. Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 If I was the villain after you checked behind the turn I'd think you had two unpaired overs. It'd be pretty brave for him to bluff into this card when it connects with a decent part of the range you are representing. What worse hands do you think might bet for value after we check the turn and the king hits?Eh, how bad does it make me look if I say nitty fold? Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I've been making these types of calls a ton lately, and it always seems like I'm beaten. Here, though, I pay it off anyway. Maybe I'm just on a bad run - and maybe I should stop playing dominated hands, even in position........nah. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I think the correct play here is raise for value, fold to a shove. I'd say make it 380 and let it go if he jams on you. That would be a hell of a bluff-shove by him. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I think the correct play here is raise for value, fold to a shove. I'd say make it 380 and let it go if he jams on you. That would be a hell of a bluff-shove by him.I cannot see him calling a raise with worse, and I think 2 pair+ is a reasonable part of his range. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 I cannot see him calling a raise with worse, and I think 2 pair+ is a reasonable part of his range.Eh, I guess with the T on the turn, I can get behind just calling.I think if the turn was more of a blank, raise/fold the river is the way to go. Obviously, if you think the villain never calls with worse, raising is pointless. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 Eh, I guess with the T on the turn, I can get behind just calling.I think if the turn was more of a blank, raise/fold the river is the way to go. Obviously, if you think the villain never calls with worse, raising is pointless.He can't really have a single ten or king here, and if he did bet the river with a hand like A9, it's unlikely he is calling a raise it.I can't see JJ or QQ being in his range either. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted June 14, 2008 Share Posted June 14, 2008 He can't really have a single ten or king here, and if he did bet the river with a hand like A9, it's unlikely he is calling a raise it.I can't see JJ or QQ being in his range either.I agree. I do think A9 will look you up a percentage of the time if the turn was, say, a 2. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted June 16, 2008 Author Share Posted June 16, 2008 You seem to be beating precisely nothing, but I don't think I would fold.Seems to be the consensus.I really couldn't figure out much that I beat that calls the turn and makes this bet. It'd be quite odd for him to have air here...and so many combos of straights and two pair.That said, I did think for a bit before making the "standard" call, but the more I think about it, I'm not sure I like it. Anyway, the guy flipped over 87o...which really surprised me as it seemed a pretty poor play on his part pre-flop. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 River ($210): (2 players)SB bets $160, Cobalt ? snap callno raise Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Seems to be the consensus.I really couldn't figure out much that I beat that calls the turn and makes this bet. It'd be quite odd for him to have air here...and so many combos of straights and two pair.That said, I did think for a bit before making the "standard" call, but the more I think about it, I'm not sure I like it. Anyway, the guy flipped over 87o...which really surprised me as it seemed a pretty poor play on his part pre-flop.Ah. The turn check was the tip off. Good value bet by him. Link to post Share on other sites
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