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#1 bascomeb

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 03:54 PM

As we know in a tourney to do well you must blind steal when the blinds become somewhat high. You can't just wait for a hand because people will know to just fold to your monster and you need some blinds to work with when playing hands along the way. Late in a tourney at partypoker I had $13,000 in chips Blinds: 750/1500No antesI was on the button and held ace 9 suited. Everyone folded to me. I thought about raising to what amount and figured since I was less then 10 times the bb I moved all in.Well the BB ended up having 77 and with $50,000 in chips called my bet and I ended up losing. I place 93rd out of 1435 in the quarter million but was a little dissapointed to go out that way.Did I make the right move by doing that? Is that just how the cards falls sometimes?
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#2 slupo

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 04:49 PM

bascomeb said:

As we know in a tourney to do well you must blind steal when the blinds become somewhat high. You can't just wait for a hand because people will know to just fold to your monster and you need some blinds to work with when playing hands along the way. Late in a tourney at partypoker I had $13,000 in chips Blinds: 750/1500No antesI was on the button and held ace 9 suited. Everyone folded to me. I thought about raising to what amount and figured since I was less then 10 times the bb I moved all in.Well the BB ended up having 77 and with $50,000 in chips called my bet and I ended up losing. I place 93rd out of 1435 in the quarter million but was a little dissapointed to go out that way.Did I make the right move by doing that? Is that just how the cards falls sometimes?
I feel like at 10x the big blind you were still in ok shape. Still short stacked, but not panic mode. With A9suited (I assume at a 10 person table), a strong raise might have been sufficient to try and steal the blind. A9s is not the greatest hand to play post flop but at least you wouldn't have put your tournament life at stake.I say, with 10x BB you still have enough chips to play some hands with. And you definitely can wait around for a better hand to move all in on. Your idea to steal the blinds is good, but not with all your chips.

#3 JimmyWellington

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 06:26 PM

I wouldn't have pushed here. I would have raised to about 4000-4500. If they're going to call that, they'd call the all in. This way, you would still have some chips.
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#4 Scott3705

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Posted 09 May 2005 - 09:11 PM

Since you are on the button, I assume you have a few hands before you will be facing the big blind again. So a raise to 3x's the BB would have been fine. However, depending on the payoff of the tournament and your relative standing in chips, I would think you would have to call this reraise. Because of this, the push all in isn't a mistake. You can't really expect to outplay anyone after the flop with this type of stack, so the fact that you pushed all in is inconsequential. Don't worry about the results. It's one of the coniflips in a tournament that you have to run anyway assuming the payout structure dictated it.

#5 looshle

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Posted 10 May 2005 - 12:00 AM

I agree with the all in. You have a decent hand against 2 random hands and 10x the BB is what most pros consider to be short stacked. A 4XBB raise will force you to be committed to the pot so why not just bet it all now? You force them to pick up a decent hand instead of letting them see the flop for 3 more BBs and hoping they dont hit it.




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