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#1 hblask

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 05:38 AM

http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/econo...dex.htm?cnn=yes

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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- On the first day of what is to be a two-week economic tour around the country, Barack Obama said Monday that lawmakers should inject another $50 billion immediately into the sluggish U.S. economy.



So this is Obama's big change for America? To do what Bush did, only more of it?

Hint to Obama and all politicians: If something is a bad idea, doing twice as much of it is an even worse idea. This is something all non-politicians understand without a moment's reflection, yet politicians can't get it through their head.
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 05:57 AM

I can't think of a single Democrat bill designed to 'fix' something that didn't include throwing money at it.

Bummer this pres is just as guilty, or I could really make the comparison how my side is better icon_frown.gif
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Things are only rights because the government decides they should be rights.

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 06:58 AM

QUOTE (hblask @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 5:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So this is Obama's big change for America?


This would only be the tip of the iceberg if Obama gets in charge. As much as I hate to say this but it might be in all of our best interests for 4 years of Obama. It will be of like the Carter years…16 percent interest rates, bleeding hearts that try their hardest to good but can’t get out of their own way…remember how much fun that was? You don’t? That is because it sucked really bad…but what did it lead too?



8 years of Reagan, one of the finest decades in history!! Then GB 1 rode his coattails followed by slick Willey and the Billary years. Sigh nothing can last forever but it took them a good while to screw it up!!



Then GB 2 comes in and inherits the mess that Billary spent all that time ignoring. After 9/11 (even though Billary was responsible for it) he loses his mind and we end up where are.



I think it may be time to let Obama fully bury things so people are ready to take the steps necessary to correct things.


QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 5:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't think of a single Democrat bill designed to 'fix' something that didn't include throwing money at it.

You will have to make one up because i really doubt it exists

Bummer this pres is just as guilty, or I could really make the comparison how my side is better icon_frown.gif

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 07:29 AM

Wow.

Just wow.


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Posted 10 June 2008 - 09:17 AM

QUOTE (nutzbuster @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 7:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wow.

Just wow.


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LOL it must be the heat...damn global warming!!
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE (akoff @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 7:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
8 years of Reagan, one of the finest decades in history!!


LOL, bolded for awesomeness. That reminds me of the Yankees announcer who said 'Arod was having one of greatest months in the history of the world' last year.

Not to get side tracked into one of these political debates on the internet (I much prefer to entertain myself by reading them, not participating in them), but how does one go about deciding what decades are the best in history? Do the 1770s get any love in that list, or how about the 1490s? I'd assume 0-10 AD is a big decade for Christians? W/out doing a ton of research, I have a feeling there have been quite a few ten-year periods throughout human existence that out rank the 1980s in the US.

One of the best decades in US History, perhaps, but the bolded is a bit overstated don't you think? (and by a bit, I do mean incredibly so, just to avoid confusion)
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 12:58 PM

QUOTE (PMJackson21 @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 10:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
One of the best decades in US History, perhaps, but the bolded is a bit overstated don't you think?



in history and US history basically the same!!
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Posted 10 June 2008 - 05:01 PM

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in history and US history basically the same!!


No, you just don't know much about world history, so you prefer to sumarize.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE (hblask @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 9:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hint to Obama and all politicians: If something is a bad idea, doing twice as much of it is an even worse idea.



I agree that it's a bad idea to simply pour money into the US economy (although my latest check will fund new iPhone). Just to be a stickler for accuracy, Obama's $50 Billion proposal is less than a third of the current economic stimulus package, not twice.

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Posted 12 June 2008 - 11:47 AM

Barack Obama Makes Shocking confession!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BnLozS-TnM

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE (hblask @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 9:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/09/news/econo...dex.htm?cnn=yes
So this is Obama's big change for America? To do what Bush did, only more of it?

Hint to Obama and all politicians: If something is a bad idea, doing twice as much of it is an even worse idea. This is something all non-politicians understand without a moment's reflection, yet politicians can't get it through their head.




Apparently you're not very familiar with Keynesian economics...I believe that's what FDR employed during the Great Depression, and oh what a disaster it was! (hint: sarcasm)

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:48 PM

QUOTE (Balloon guy @ Tuesday, June 10th, 2008, 9:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't think of a single Democrat bill designed to 'fix' something that didn't include throwing money at it.

Bummer this pres is just as guilty, or I could really make the comparison how my side is better icon_frown.gif


Think a little harder. Here's a recent one that I like in particular...


"Kucinich Introduces Bush Impeachment Resolution"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kuc...tion=cnn_latest

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:52 PM

QUOTE (LBCBJ @ Friday, June 13th, 2008, 4:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think a little harder. Here's a recent one that I like in particular...
"Kucinich Introduces Bush Impeachment Resolution"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kuc...tion=cnn_latest



When did this happen? I read CNN, FoxNews, BBC, Xinhua...watch ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, and CNN. None of them mentioned a thing about it.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 01:04 PM

I would just like to point out that the 1790s, not the 1980s, are the greatest decade in human history.

No doubt in my mind.


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Posted 13 June 2008 - 04:08 PM

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I would just like to point out that the 1790s, not the 1980s, are the greatest decade in human history.

No doubt in my mind.


Yep for rich white male property owners it was the greatest. I have to assume you fall into that catagory.
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Posted 14 June 2008 - 03:08 AM

QUOTE (LBCBJ @ Friday, June 13th, 2008, 4:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently you're not very familiar with Keynesian economics...I believe that's what FDR employed during the Great Depression, and oh what a disaster it was! (hint: sarcasm)



Paging HBlask, paging HBlask...

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Posted 14 June 2008 - 05:00 AM

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Paging HBlask, paging HBlask...


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Posted 14 June 2008 - 05:05 AM

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Indeed. Why do we even try anymore?

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Posted 14 June 2008 - 05:19 AM

QUOTE (LongLiveYorke @ Saturday, June 14th, 2008, 8:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Indeed. Why do we even try anymore?


Good question. I think it's because I figure for every person who posts, there are 9 other lurkers, 1 who may be on the fence and needs the voice of rational thought. I'm obviously most qualified for that position. (Although I do have a big list of people whose opinions I always respect, even if they disagree).
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Posted 16 June 2008 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (LBCBJ @ Friday, June 13th, 2008, 1:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think a little harder. Here's a recent one that I like in particular...
"Kucinich Introduces Bush Impeachment Resolution"
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kuc...tion=cnn_latest


1st, This link has nothing remotely related to helping the country, only helping the delusional left pretend that their golden boy Clinton didn't deserve getting impeached for lying under oath to a federal judge.

2nd, Kusinich was one of your sides top 5 picks to run this country. Shows how shallow the gene pool is on the dem side.

3rd, Even Nancy Pelosi knows this can't happen, and she's insane. How insane do the people have to be to still try this? I'll give you a hint...almost as insane as picking a man with no experience to run the largest economy/military in the world.
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