2008 Wsop Fantasy Pool, Here are the rules and prize info Options

[FCP Bob]

FCP is proud to bring back the WSOP Fantasy Pool for 2008!

FCP Members will submit a list of 10 players and those players will earn points in the 10 "Championship" Events at the WSOP but not including the Main Event due to the delayed final table.

Your team's final result will be the cumulative total points that your team's players have earned over the 10 events. Most points wins!

Anytime a player from your list makes the top 16 in one of the tournaments you'll earn the following points based on their finish in the tournament:

1st. 50 points
2nd. 44 points
3rd. 40 points
4th. 36 points
5th. 32 points
6th. 28 points
7th. 24 points
8th. 20 points
9th. 16 points
10th. 14 points
11th. 12 points
12th. 10 points
13th. 8 points
14th. 6 points
15th. 4 points
16th. 2 points

Prizes for the top 20 will be as follows:

1st Place - 6 Month Poker VT subscription and a copy of Daniel's New Book, Power Hold'Em Strategy
2nd Place - 3 Month Poker VT subscription and a copy of Daniels's New Book, Power Hold'Em Strategy
3rd - 5th Places - 1 Month Poker VT subscription and a copy of Daniel's New Book, Power Hold'Em Strategy
6th - 10th Places - A copy of Daniel's New Book, Power Hold'Em Strategy
11th - 20th Places - FCP Hat

The 10 qualifying events are as follows:

Event 1: May 30th, World Championship $10K Pot Limit Holdem
Event 8: June 4th, World Championship $10K Mixed Event
Event 11: June 6th, $5K No-Limit Holdem Shootout
Event 14: June 7th, World Championship $10K Seven Card
Event 25: June 13th, World Championship $10K Heads Up No Limit
Event 30: June 15th, World Championship $10K Limit Holdem
Event 33: June 17th, World Championship $5K Seven Card Stud 8 or Better
Event 37: June 19th, World Championship $10K Omaha 8 or Better
Event 45: June 25th, World Championship $50K Horse
Event 50: June 29th, World Championship $10K Pot Limit Omaha

The tiebreaker will be a guess on the number of players in the main event.

Rules
- You must have a valid FCP Forum Account
- One entry allowed per person (No matter how many forum accounts you have!)
- All entries must be submitted by: Friday, May 30th at 12:00 NOON EDT
- Player's names must be spelled correctly, both first and last or you will risk not getting credit for that player. Nicknames or short forms will not be accepted.
- In the event 2 or more players tie in a tournament, all players will be awarded the higher value in points
- For Event #11, $5K No-Limit Holdem Shootout event only the final table players will earn points

To Submit your entry please follow this link to the main FCP Website.
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/promotions...8-wsop-pool.php

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[El Guapo]

Bob are you going to show a leader board? Or somehow shows how everyone is doing?

[AmScray]

Just wondering-

Player's names must be spelled correctly, both first and last or you will risk not getting credit for that player. Nicknames or short forms will not be accepted.

Does this mean entering "Phil Hellmuth" instead of "Phillip Hellmuth" or "Huck Seed" instead of "Huckleberry Seed" pr "Freddy Deeb" instead of "Kasseem Deeb" or "Sammy Farha" instead of "Ihsan Farha" or "Antonio Esfandiari" instead of "Amir Esfandiari" is a DQ? I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this, and why this rule might need a little clarification.

(I am so entering this- and will win...)

[jmbreslin]

So how do we actually make our selections?

[AmScray]

So how do we actually make our selections?

To Submit your entry please follow this link to the main FCP Website.
http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/promotions...8-wsop-pool.php

Anyway, the only thing that kinda sucks about 10 players is it forces to you to either seriously gamble it up with lesser knowns and hope to hit big, thus pulling away from the pack, or it forces everyone to play the same 10 guys since you cannot risk Ivey final tabling and having 9/10ths of the field move ahead of you.

Like, who *isn't* picking Allen Cunningham...

IMO, some sort of a tier system ala the FCP fantasy league, or allowing 20-30 players, would've been better and allowed for a little more 'game'.

[Shark527]

I could've picked Cunningham?! Wait I did.

I agree about everyone picking a lot of the same names but I don't think it will be that close.
I'm sure I have about 5-6 names on my list that will be on a lot of others, Negreanu, Hellmuth, Cunningham, Ivey.

It's really bad for a fantasy league taht everyone is going to pick a good percentage of the same people but I just tried to look at overall results like everyone probably will. It will really boil down to the last 3-4 people on your list that pull through somewhere along the tourney schedule.

[FHgrad99]

I could've picked Cunningham?! Wait I did.

I agree about everyone picking a lot of the same names but I don't think it will be that close.
I'm sure I have about 5-6 names on my list that will be on a lot of others, Negreanu, Hellmuth, Cunningham, Ivey.

It's really bad for a fantasy league taht everyone is going to pick a good percentage of the same people but I just tried to look at overall results like everyone probably will. It will really boil down to the last 3-4 people on your list that pull through somewhere along the tourney schedule.

I picked Negreanu, Hellmuth, Cunningham and Ivey as well. I believe that I gambled and picked one player who hasn't won a bracelet yet.

[AmScray]

I picked 3 guys without bracelets and a guy with one bracelet but he won't be one of the 'herd picks'.
I didn't pick Ivey, so my entire team basically hinges on him not hitting, as if he does, I'm behind 95% of the field as soon as it happens.

[CobaltBlue]

The old contest was great. (Couple of years ago.) I think you got 20 players and then ranked them...which made the whole thing more complicated, but it left for a lot more nuance.

[FCP Bob]

Bob are you going to show a leader board? Or somehow shows how everyone is doing?

We should be updating the standings in this forum.

[FCP Bob]

Just wondering-
Does this mean entering "Phil Hellmuth" instead of "Phillip Hellmuth" or "Huck Seed" instead of "Huckleberry Seed" pr "Freddy Deeb" instead of "Kasseem Deeb" or "Sammy Farha" instead of "Ihsan Farha" or "Antonio Esfandiari" instead of "Amir Esfandiari" is a DQ? I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this, and why this rule might need a little clarification.

(I am so entering this- and will win...)

Basically the spelling rule is there to try and keep as many people as possible using the "standard" way that a player is known and to use the real name as opposed to nicknames. We'll be using an excel set up that searches to match names to track the results and the less changes we have to make to what people have entered the better.

If somebody makes an honest spelling mistake and lets us know we can go in and fix it.

Anyway, the only thing that kinda sucks about 10 players is it forces to you to either seriously gamble it up with lesser knowns and hope to hit big, thus pulling away from the pack, or it forces everyone to play the same 10 guys since you cannot risk Ivey final tabling and having 9/10ths of the field move ahead of you.

Like, who *isn't* picking Allen Cunningham...

IMO, some sort of a tier system ala the FCP fantasy league, or allowing 20-30 players, would've been better and allowed for a little more 'game'.

The old contest was great. (Couple of years ago.) I think you got 20 players and then ranked them...which made the whole thing more complicated, but it left for a lot more nuance.

We realize that picking only 10 names is a bit simple but that's exactly the way it has to be. The pool from 2 years ago had Darrell basically working on it full time for the entire series and we just weren't going to have something that was going to take somebody a huge amount of time to run.

It was a question of a fairly simple pool or no pool at all.

[CobaltBlue]

We realize that picking only 10 names is a bit simple but that's exactly the way it has to be. The pool from 2 years ago had Darrell basically working on it full time for the entire series and we just weren't going to have something that was going to take somebody a huge amount of time to run.

It was a question of a fairly simple pool or no pool at all.

Oh, I don't mean to be ungrateful. I'm happy to have something this year as opposed to last year when we didn't have anything. I understand what a huge undertaking it must've been. It's my preference to have that system, but thank you for having this one.

[gfdsa146]

Whoever's picking Ivey is making a bad move. You know what Ivey does around WSOP time. He plays the big cash games filled with tourney donks. Ivey only comes out to play 1 or 2 events, so good luck trying to get points off of him.

Oh yes, and all in favor of chipsets being listed as a prize say I.

I.

[SlapStick]

Anyone have a list handy? I have a general team set up, but I don't want to go through "dammit! I forgot all about him!" And theres definitely a lot of guys I will forget about unless reminded

[AmScray]

Big fat nay on the chip set.
Assuming it's one or the other, I would much rather have free access to a top poker training site.

[CobaltBlue]

Anyone have a list handy? I have a general team set up, but I don't want to go through "dammit! I forgot all about him!" And theres definitely a lot of guys I will forget about unless reminded

Try checking out CardPlayer's POY standings for the past few years.

[psujohn]

Anyone have a list handy? I have a general team set up, but I don't want to go through "dammit! I forgot all about him!" And theres definitely a lot of guys I will forget about unless reminded

Or check out FTP's fantasy draft list.

Next year gimme a heads up a month or two in advance for how you want to work the contest and I can whip up a program (web based) that'll work more like FTP's (a list of people to pick and rank) and make calculating the points as easy as entering the names of the final 16. Kinda too late to do it for this year though.

[SlapStick]

Yea thanks, I can't actually find the FTP draft, one of the reasons I asked

[jmbreslin]

I'm incredibly confused. The link doesn't work for me and I can't find the page anywhere on the site...

*Edit: Nevermind, I figured it out

[SlapStick]

ANyone know if Eli Elezra will be playing a lot of events?