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[AimHigher]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($9.95)
CO ($11.65)
Button ($32.25)
SB ($9.65)
Hero ($10)
UTG ($4.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A.
UTG calls $0.10, MP raises to $0.4, 1 fold, Button raises to $0.7, SB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.90, UTG folds, MP calls $0.60, Button calls $0.30.

Flop: ($4.10) K, 3, A (4 players)
SB bets $0.6, Hero raises to $5, MP folds, Button folds, SB calls $4.40.

Turn: ($14.10) 3 (2 players)

River: ($14.10) 4 (2 players)

Final Pot: $14.10

Button was super aggro tard, I'd seen him overshove all in several times since I sat down. He 3 bet me from the BB with KT. In an earlier hand he over-bet-bluffed the river into 4 players and I called him with a straight. He also just stacked me on the last hand.

I figured that the SB was just adjusting to the button's total tardness.

Thoughts?

Edit: Converter Messed up, but I got it in on the turn against the SB if that's relevant.

[LJB723]

Glad to hear you got it in on the turn, although I don't think you could do anything else. If he bets obviously you shove, if he checks, ditto.

Which makes the flop pretty bizzare, if you're villains are clocking that you've cold-called a re-re-raise preflop then the board is possibly the worst ever for them unless they have AA,KK,33 or another AK combo. I'd imagine you are chopping this a lot, but I like your play.

[AimHigher]

Glad to hear you got it in on the turn, although I don't think you could do anything else. If he bets obviously you shove, if he checks, ditto.

Which makes the flop pretty bizzare, if you're villains are clocking that you've cold-called a re-re-raise preflop then the board is possibly the worst ever for them unless they have AA,KK,33 or another AK combo. I'd imagine you are chopping this a lot, but I like your play.

Do you think we should be re-raising preflop? The button was the most aggro player I've seen at $10NL and I think the table was adjusting.

[LJB723]

Do you think we should be re-raising preflop? The button was the most aggro player I've seen at $10NL and I think the table was adjusting.

They weren't adjusting brilliantly. SB's re-re-raise is pretty ugly, it doesn't do anything but price in a call from MP and then button.

The problem is if the button is doing this with atc, are the other players willing to fight back with atc? If you knew that then yes, pop it up again with AK as it is I don't mind the call (call it trapping if that makes you feel better, I know I prefer it).

If you were to pop it again then with over $2 already out there and a few interested customers you'd have to make it ~$6. Then what, shove any flop? Assuming you get at least one caller preflop, if they all call the pot will be too big to fold and you'd definately have to push anything.

So I guess that was my roundabout way of saying I like it.

[AimHigher]

They weren't adjusting brilliantly. SB's re-re-raise is pretty ugly, it doesn't do anything but price in a call from MP and then button.

The problem is if the button is doing this with atc, are the other players willing to fight back with atc? If you knew that then yes, pop it up again with AK as it is I don't mind the call (call it trapping if that makes you feel better, I know I prefer it).

If you were to pop it again then with over $2 already out there and a few interested customers you'd have to make it ~$6. Then what, shove any flop? Assuming you get at least one caller preflop, if they all call the pot will be too big to fold and you'd definately have to push anything.

So I guess that was my roundabout way of saying I like it.

Well, I don't think they don't have to be doing it with ATC for it to be profitable to re-raise here, but maybe flatting is better since I am going to end up priced going to the flop unless I overshove. [shrugs]

[psujohn]

I just shove pre. No one has AA or KK except maybe MP and you don't mind calls from TT. You'd be surprised how often you get called by AQ too.

[Temporary Nuts]

Yes this is a time for a 5 bet or fold preflop. I'll be really surprised if you get paid off this hand... hopefully the SB held exactly AQ.

I can't fold AK at 10NL for only one buyin, so I make it 4 to go and call one or many shoves.

edt: minraising pre is never adjusting to anything... they're just equally tardtastic

[mtdesmoines]

I think for < 1 buy in, shoving AK PF into a couple raises is OK.

[Citizen Erased]

Do you think we should be re-raising preflop?

Yes. So many times, yes. Just like the others have said, 5-Bet.

I think the table was adjusting.

This doesn't happen.

Don't ever give your opponents credit for playing like you would. If you do, you end up playing yourself, and that's a game you can't win.

[AimHigher]

Thanks guys! 5-bet/shove for value, ftw!