K 
UTG.I raise and it's folded around to the BB who calls.Flop is J 
4 J 
BB checks, I bet, he calls.Turn is a 6 BB bets, I raise, BB 3-bets, I fold...Discuss.EDIT: I was getting 9-1 immediate and 5-1 effective.
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kk-i fold turn
Started by wrto4556, May 08 2005 12:39 AM
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 12:39 AM
BB is 30/4/1Havnt seem much interesting things from him postflop.I get delt K K UTG.I raise and it's folded around to the BB who calls.Flop is J 4 J BB checks, I bet, he calls.Turn is a 6 BB bets, I raise, BB 3-bets, I fold...Discuss.EDIT: I was getting 9-1 immediate and 5-1 effective.
K UTG.I raise and it's folded around to the BB who calls.Flop is J 4 J BB checks, I bet, he calls.Turn is a 6 BB bets, I raise, BB 3-bets, I fold...Discuss.EDIT: I was getting 9-1 immediate and 5-1 effective.
back for kramit
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 12:56 AM
After A good MSN Discussion its agreed...The Re-Raise is -EV, Losing bets if he's ahead. Not ganing enough to make it worth it. If he re-raises you have to know you're behind... Bad re-raise very good fold. The lesson didn't cost you anything extra in this case... Unless that K was coming 
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 02:30 AM
I think this is a good fold "IFF" you have a great read on BB from playing with him. If he is the rock of gibraltar, I may have to fold here to what seems like KJ or AJ; but if he's in any way tricky or aggressive from what you've seen I think you have to call down this turn bet and river bet. He could easily be holding Ax , A6/A4, and pocket pairs from QQ down; he may think you have two overcards, and try to stop you from drawing on the turn when he has most equity. If I were BB with 99, I'd probably check raise you on the turn or even do a stop and go bet/3-bet like this dude. I mean, I'm surprised that you'd argue that another poster played AA on a board of Q 10 10 X weakly by not capping the turn, when you folded to a three-bet on the turn here. The turn raise is certainly correct in your case; the fold is way incorrect, IMO.
, A6/A4, and pocket pairs from QQ down; he may think you have two overcards, and try to stop you from drawing on the turn when he has most equity. If I were BB with 99, I'd probably check raise you on the turn or even do a stop and go bet/3-bet like this dude. I mean, I'm surprised that you'd argue that another poster played AA on a board of Q 10 10 X weakly by not capping the turn, when you folded to a three-bet on the turn here. The turn raise is certainly correct in your case; the fold is way incorrect, IMO.
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 08:26 AM
Willy, these are two different opponents. AA was against a LAG.
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 08:31 AM
waldo said:
no reason to raise, he is either going to fold to your raise or reraise you, just smooth call and call the river, you get to showdown for the same amount you put and get a chance to take the pot
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 08:51 AM
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Posted 08 May 2005 - 03:07 PM
Wily said:
I think this is a good fold "IFF" you have a great read on BB from playing with him. If he is the rock of gibraltar, I may have to fold here to what seems like KJ or AJ; but if he's in any way tricky or aggressive from what you've seen I think you have to call down this turn bet and river bet. He could easily be holding Ax , A6/A4, and pocket pairs from QQ down; he may think you have two overcards, and try to stop you from drawing on the turn when he has most equity. If I were BB with 99, I'd probably check raise you on the turn or even do a stop and go bet/3-bet like this dude. I mean, I'm surprised that you'd argue that another poster played AA on a board of Q 10 10 X weakly by not capping the turn, when you folded to a three-bet on the turn here. The turn raise is certainly correct in your case; the fold is way incorrect, IMO.
, A6/A4, and pocket pairs from QQ down; he may think you have two overcards, and try to stop you from drawing on the turn when he has most equity. If I were BB with 99, I'd probably check raise you on the turn or even do a stop and go bet/3-bet like this dude. I mean, I'm surprised that you'd argue that another poster played AA on a board of Q 10 10 X weakly by not capping the turn, when you folded to a three-bet on the turn here. The turn raise is certainly correct in your case; the fold is way incorrect, IMO.
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