.10/.20 J2s Small Blind... Unlucky Or Bad?

[Roo6339 0]

PokerStars 0.10/0.20 Hold'em (10 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Preflop: Hero is SB with 2 , J . 3 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (4 SB) J , T , 3 (4 players)Hero bets, BB folds, MP1 raises, Button calls, Hero calls.Turn: (5 BB) 2 (3 players)Hero checks, MP1 checks, Button checks.River: (5 BB) 2 (3 players)Hero bets, MP1 folds, Button folds.Final Pot: 5 BBDid I play this right and just got incredibly unlucky that I didn't get to check/raise the turn? Maybe put more bets in on the flop?

[outsider13 0]

I'm not a limit player, but look at the board. You have top pair with a heart flush draw on the board. Why not lead out the turn? The 2c surely can't be a scare card for anybody, and it looks like you are still drawing.

[quadaces 0]

Bad

[ricardob 0]

I would lead the turn.Would it be a mistake to re-raise that flop? We got top pair and a strong draw and the button would have to call a reraise.

[Zach6668 513]

3-bet the flop baby!

[KoRnholio 2]

3-way out of position I just call the flop. Go for a check-raise on the turn. Obviously bet the river.Well played.

[Viper_13 0]

flop is ez 3 bet, then lead turn.

[Zach6668 513]

3-way out of position I just call the flop. Go for a check-raise on the turn. Obviously bet the river.Well played.

Your equity edge on the flop doesn't care about your position.

[Actuary 3]

Your equity edge on the flop doesn't care about your position.

nice.I don't think we are strong enough to c/r the turn vs how high our equity edge is on the flop.I hope I make sense and am not toally off

[Roo6339 0]

OK, that's what I thought after the hand. More bets on the flop. I think those saying lead the turn (as played) are being results oriented. As played this is a standard check/raise right?

[Zach6668 513]

I think those saying lead the turn (as played) are being results oriented. As played this is a standard check/raise right?

Yeah. Although it shouldn't come to it, since we would have had the lead, most of the time, had we 3-bet the flop. If I didn't, though, c/r is awesome.

[RISEorFall 0]

nice.I don't think we are strong enough to c/r the turn vs how high our equity edge is on the flop.I hope I make sense and am not toally off

nope, i got yaTPNK plus a flush draw is way stronger on the flop than on a missed turn, 3 handed equity wise. against TP and a straight draw, we're 43% on the flop, 28% on the turnwe're going from 35% to 21% on the turn against 2pair+ and a draw.basically, our equity is way better on the flop than the turn. c/r the turn is good as played, but i wouldve 3'd the flop. note that MP1 raises draws on the flop, even if it shuts out the fieldand Button's not very aggressive, and will take free cards with draws.

[Actuary 3]

What's the play on the turn as played if a 4d fell?c/c yes?And as is though, why not lead the turn?Couldn't this have been a free card play?Getting chekd thru when we have two pair really blows

[antistuff 0]

Couldn't this have been a free card play?

its the funniest thing about free card plays. people always seem to make them but never seem to take them...kind of like bet/fold on the river when the flush hits.....

[RISEorFall 0]

What's the play on the turn as played if a 4d fell?c/c yes?And as is though, why not lead the turn?Couldn't this have been a free card play?Getting chekd thru when we have two pair really blows

yeah i go with c/c on a blank turnchecking through does suck, but that's being results oriented. c/r is by far the best play on the turn by this point, because we can trap button for two.

[Actuary 3]

its the funniest thing about free card plays. people always seem to make them but never seem to take them...kind of like bet/fold on the river when the flush hits.....

you make good analogy; but with this drawy board and the fact both players called, I would see this as a time they actually take the free card,.He doesn't have a monster, given no pfr. Draws are a huge part of his range

[RISEorFall 0]

He doesn't have a monster, given no pfr.

33 and JT make pretty good hands and are hardly raised preflopmight've been trying for the AA or KK limp/reraisenot everyone raises TT or hell even JJ, though to a lesser degree.AJ and KJ aren't monsters, but are in his range.yes, draws do make up a large part of it, but we can't rule out big made hands.

[Actuary 3]

33 and JT make pretty good hands and are hardly raised preflop

I guess I should say "The chance he has a draw is higher relatively speaking, given the pf action and the board and his pos, than the set of all possible scenarios of a flop raise"Or at least for some people I should have said it that way

[RISEorFall 0]

basically you mean it's a draw heavy board, so his raise could be more than a made hand.and youre right. but it also could be a made a hand. none of this really matters if we 3 bet the flop

[Actuary 3]

basically you mean it's a draw heavy board, so his raise could be more than a made hand.and youre right. but it also could be a made a hand.

Yeah, like the odds of winning the lottery are 50/50.You do or you don'tExactlyYou totally get it.thanks.

none of this really matters if we 3 bet the flop

Yep. But that's obvious