zoo 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Villain is a rock. 13%/3%/2.2 over 451 hands. Seems to play pretty ABC. I haven't seen him do anything crazy and I am pretty sure he would have open raised preflop with AA, AK or KK. Thoughts?Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (10 handed) Ultimate Bet Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)UTG+2 ($200.60)Hero ($141.70)MP2 ($64.75)MP3 ($100)CO ($131.90)Button ($134.60)SB ($203.90)BB ($323.10)UTG ($326.70)UTG+1 ($64)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A , A . 1 fold, UTG+2 calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 6 folds, UTG+2 calls $7.Flop: ($21) K , 7 , 3 (3 players)UTG+2 bets $14, Hero raises to $28, UTG+2 raises to $50, Hero ??? Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I've seen some rocks limp/call with AK oop. That and the fact that you min-raised his donkbet makes me want to call him, since your minraise is read as a bluff a lot of times. If you had raised to $35/$40 and he shoved, I can get away from it. Link to post Share on other sites
staggo 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 Seems a lot like utg+2 limp called 77, or 33. Ak could have limp called, but thats all your really ahead of here against a very rocky player like the one your describing. Wish you raised a little more than min Link to post Share on other sites
pokerinc 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I don't think this is AK. You have the A of clubs which is actually a little scary.I would play kq sooted like that post flop I guess. Other than that only other hands I see are 777 and 333 from a straight forward rock.Hmm...re looking at it yeah, I don't like your post min raise. He CiBed you, which makes me think a wider range. He didn't give you much credit and can now make a move with way more hands here.As played go back in time and buy in for a full stack then make a big boy raise over his donk. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I've seen some rocks limp/call with AK oop. That and the fact that you min-raised his donkbet makes me want to call him, since your minraise is read as a bluff a lot of times. If you had raised to $35/$40 and he shoved, I can get away from it.Yeah, need to raise more after the flop bet.As played, I think I'm shipping it in Link to post Share on other sites
Artagas 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I know I am a passive donk, but is it even a good idea to raise this flop into a rock? I know we probably have the best hand, but after limp-calling/donking the flop KQs is by far the most likely hand in a straightforward rock's range, and I have doubts about a flop raise being the best way to get value out of it. The 3bet is scary because he might put you on AK after you min-raise and he is still not looking too concerned.I'd call it and fold to any serious turn bet if the miracle A wont show up. (Because our only hope is really that he is getting aggro with TP and if so he will check most turns probably. I don't think it is a very likely scenario, but getting 1:4 I could never fold) Link to post Share on other sites
IBFT 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 1) buy in for full2) raise to 10 preflop3) don't 3 bet here unless you have a clear idea of why you're doing itWhen a 13/3/2 (pretty tight/passive) plays a hand this way, i myself am probably going to become passive. I would probably just try to call down here. If I raise his flop bet and he reraises, Im foling 100% of the time. This is a dry board, not even an OESD for me to talk myself into (as a hand range). I would say this is 77 about 95% of the time. 33 4% of the time. KK .05% of the time, and something you beat .05% of the time. If I'm wrong, Im willing to fold the best hand once in a while. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 1) buy in for full2) raise to 10 preflop3) don't 3 bet here unless you have a clear idea of why you're doing itWhen a 13/3/2 (pretty tight/passive) plays a hand this way, i myself am probably going to become passive. I would probably just try to call down here. If I raise his flop bet and he reraises, Im foling 100% of the time. This is a dry board, not even an OESD for me to talk myself into (as a hand range). I would say this is 77 about 95% of the time. 33 4% of the time. KK .05% of the time, and something you beat .05% of the time. If I'm wrong, Im willing to fold the best hand once in a while.I agree that we're behind here so often that I'm very willing to lay it down. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 I don't like raising the flop vs nits, definitely not on this board. If I were going to raise, I'd raise close to 40-45. There's no draws to protect against and his line looks awfully lot like a set. I fold as his range is almost exclusively 33/77 here. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 1) buy in for full2) raise to 10 preflop3) don't 3 bet here unless you have a clear idea of why you're doing itWhen a 13/3/2 (pretty tight/passive) plays a hand this way, i myself am probably going to become passive. I would probably just try to call down here. If I raise his flop bet and he reraises, Im foling 100% of the time. This is a dry board, not even an OESD for me to talk myself into (as a hand range). I would say this is 77 about 95% of the time. 33 4% of the time. KK .05% of the time, and something you beat .05% of the time. If I'm wrong, Im willing to fold the best hand once in a while.What makes you think it's 77 far more often than 33? I'm willing to believe it's the opposite. More like 77 46%, 33 43%, KK like 6% and something random like 5% of the time. Note that I made the numbers like this so they'd add to 100 but I do believe 33 is more likely to open limp than 77, and both play it this way postflop. Link to post Share on other sites
IBFT 0 Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 What makes you think it's 77 far more often than 33? I'm willing to believe it's the opposite. More like 77 46%, 33 43%, KK like 6% and something random like 5% of the time. Note that I made the numbers like this so they'd add to 100 but I do believe 33 is more likely to open limp than 77, and both play it this way postflop.I think that 77 is the lower threshold of a 13 vpip's EP range, thats where my statement comes from. Either way, you're drawing to two outs. Link to post Share on other sites
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