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[pokargrl]

Hero is dealt A A UTG. Preflop-- Hero raises, 2 folds, Button 3 bets (Very Very LAG), blinds fold, Hero calls-- I don't want to give away my hand quite yet. I'm setting up a check raise on the turn. Flop-- Q T T -- He probably caught a piece of it with AQ or KK/JJ. Maybe QQ or TT, but that's not very likely. -- Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls-- Turn 2 -- Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3 bets.... hero callsRiver 6 -- Hero checks, button bets, hero callsPlayed well? Didn't cap preflop because it was heads up, there was no chance of him folding, and I'd gain a lot of deception by it. I think I should have lead the flop, and then check raised the turn when he raised me on the flop. Results to follow.

[wrto4556]

If he's a true LAG, you could have gotten alot more bets out of him.I don't mind the call preflop, but I would bet the flop(call a raise), bet the turn (reraise a raise(call a cap), and check/bet-call the river.I think you could have gotten more out of him.

[Vade]

pokargrl said:

Hero is dealt A A UTG. Preflop-- Hero raises, 2 folds, Button 3 bets (Very Very LAG), blinds fold, Hero calls-- I don't want to give away my hand quite yet. I'm setting up a check raise on the turn. This seems...ok I guess...do you really think that a very very LAG player would put you on AA?Flop-- Q T T -- He probably caught a piece of it with AQ or KK/JJ. Maybe QQ or TT, but that's not very likely. -- Hero checks, Button bets, Hero callsThis flop is too dangerous not to bet. -- Turn 2 -- Hero checks, Button bets, Hero raises, Button 3 bets.... hero callsWhy why why are you checking? River 6 -- Hero checks, button bets, hero callsI'm confused why you don't think you have the best hand here.Played well? Didn't cap preflop because it was heads up, there was no chance of him folding, and I'd gain a lot of deception by it. I think I should have lead the flop, and then check raised the turn when he raised me on the flop. Results to follow.

[waldo]

you failed to cap preflop and you checked everystreet on the hand and your asking if you played poorly?

[Wily]

wrto4556 said:

If he's a true LAG, you could have gotten alot more bets out of him.I don't mind the call preflop, but I would bet the flop(call a raise), bet the turn (reraise a raise(call a cap), and check/bet-call the river.I think you could have gotten more out of him.

How is this hand different from the hand when you said you'd fold pocket kings to a three-bet on the turn on a board with two jacks? I think after the three-bet on the turn, you should just call down from there. A decent LAG (not a "maniac") will know to slow down on the expensive streets without a decent hand; in this case, something that beats just queens up. I like the play of check-call on the flop and going for the check raise on the turn, but only if the flop looks undangerous. This flop has the aspect of the paired board, and I may want to get my info on whether Op has a 10 based on his flop betting than waiting for the turn where it would be more expensive. I may have played it more straightforward, seeing this board-You bet, Villian raises (almost guaranteed to your gaybet), you three-bet, if he caps then check/call down from there, if he just calls lead every street, call a raise.

[wrto4556]

These are two completely different opponenents, willy. You can't just play the cards.

[akishore]

wrto4556 said:

These are two completely different opponenents, willy. You can't just play the cards.

it's wily, jerk! one L! against a normally passive player, it's a fold, but against a maniac, it's a reraise, IMHO.aseem

[akishore]

vade, i disagree with your comments.the flop is dangerous, but that doesn't mean he has to bet--the LAG is doing it for him.the turn check is fine if he's planning a checkraise, which is a good move against a LAG (though wrto recommends the gaybet line).and i think the river play was okay given the turn action (though using the gaybet line on the turn would have given him better information--if villian capped, river is a check-call line, but if villian just called, river is a bet-call line). i don't think you can assume that AA UI is the best hand on the river often enough to bet-raise or check-raise villian on the river.and waldo, your comment was totally out of context. the flop check was fine if he was setting up the turn, and the turn check was fine given that he planned a checkraise (though again, a gaybet would have been better, but a checkraise wasn't bad). the river check-call was also fine given the turn action (see above).aseem

[KDawgCometh]

honestly, I think Waldo's comment was dead on. THe OP did everything to lose this hand. Gaybetting the turn is better as you will get in a threebet, which gives us more. But a LAG will not interpret a PF cap as AA and leading the flop might induce a raise for us to pull a stop n go and get more bets in. THis hand got butchered from the start. At 5/10 6 max, people expect you to be very aggressive so by playing it like this you are losing out on precious BBs. If youplay like this at 5/10 6 max you'll get eaten alive