BetItAll33 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 Thoughts or comments on this hand? Table is generally loose passive...vpip around 35% for the table. Villain is tight/solid with VPIP of around 19%Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with 3c, 3s. UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.I call UTG+2...I think we just lost a few players, but this is a ten handed table. I'm not really interested in dissecting this preflop call, lets' move to the flop.Flop: (6 SB) 5h, 7h, 3h (6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.I hit my set on a very coordinated board, raise and get 3 bet. I just call, hoping to fill up. Would anybody cap it here?Turn: (6 BB) 7s (2 players)UTG bets, UTG calls.I hit my boat and raise...simple enough.River: (10 BB) 6h (2 players)UTG bets, UTG calls.Interesting card on the river. Now I hope he had just the ace of hearts, but it's not looking good when he 3 bets me on the river. I cap it, figuring I'm good here most of the time. What do you all think of this play?Final Pot: 18 BB Link to post Share on other sites
Wily 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 Thoughts or comments on this hand? Table is generally loose passive...vpip around 35% for the table. Villain is tight/solid with VPIP of around 19%Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with 3c, 3s. UTG calls, 1 fold, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.I call UTG+2...I think we just lost a few players, but this is a ten handed table. I'm not really interested in dissecting this preflop call, lets' move to the flop.Flop: (6 SB) 5h, 7h, 3h (6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls.I hit my set on a very coordinated board, raise and get 3 bet. I just call, hoping to fill up. Would anybody cap it here?Turn: (6 BB) 7s (2 players)UTG bets, UTG calls.I hit my boat and raise...simple enough.River: (10 BB) 6h (2 players)UTG bets, UTG calls.Interesting card on the river. Now I hope he had just the ace of hearts, but it's not looking good when he 3 bets me on the river. I cap it, figuring I'm good here most of the time. What do you all think of this play?Final Pot: 18 BBGiven that it's .5/1 at Party, solid play, most times you will extract value here from somebody holding an ace high flush. I highly doubt he has a boat on the turn at least, since there would be no reason why he wouldn't three-bet on the turn unless he's got a meta-game going in his mind about waiting until the river. Since you posted this and might have lost this hand, 76 is a possibility on the river, and so is the 4 . But most times at these limits UTG will have A 7 or A 5, betting through thinking that you are on a flush draw and now that they've achieved a better flush tahn you. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 fold pre-flop. even if you aren't interested in talking about, 3-3 is worthless in this position.i think you played it okjust hope he didnt have the 4 , 77, 76, 73, 55, 75, or 66. Link to post Share on other sites
BetItAll33 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Author Share Posted May 7, 2005 betitall33 shows [ 3c, 3s ] a full house, Threes full of sevens.gsgsg shows [ Ah, 4h ] a straight flush, seven high.gsgsg wins $17.25 from the main pot with a straight flush, seven high. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 fold pre-flop. even if you aren't interested in talking about, 3-3 is worthless in this position..such awful advice, IMO. If I'm at a table wher I can't limp with this hand in EP or early MP then I need to find a new table, siple as that. To the OP, you hand looks fine. IN fact you might have enough boat outs to cap the flop Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 If I'm at a table wher I can't limp with this hand in EP or early MP then I need to find a new table, siple as that. To the OP, you hand looks fine. IN fact you might have enough boat outs to cap the flop.We don't have enough outs...BUT, we have the best hand quite a bit. We are filling up somewhere around 38% of the time...and have the best hand another 20% (maybe more...the point is we only need the best hand 12% of the time to make it correct, I think). Link to post Share on other sites
BetItAll33 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Author Share Posted May 7, 2005 If I'm at a table wher I can't limp with this hand in EP or early MP then I need to find a new table, siple as that. To the OP, you hand looks fine. IN fact you might have enough boat outs to cap the flop.We don't have enough outs...BUT, we have the best hand quite a bit. We are filling up somewhere around 38% of the time...and have the best hand another 20% (maybe more...the point is we only need the best hand 12% of the time to make it correct, I think).WRTO, so you're saying cap the flop? Cap the river? Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 this is oddi usually fold 2-2 through 5-5 in UTG or UTG+1this is a leak?if so, how has it slipped by this long? Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 this is oddi usually fold 2-2 through 5-5 in UTG or UTG+1this is a leak?if so, how has it slipped by this long?its not a leak at a tight table, but at a nice soft table, you really should limp in ep and utg with low PPs as you will definetly be missing out on money making opportunites by folding them Link to post Share on other sites
MrNiceGuy 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 I like the idea of capping the flop for the reasons mentioned; plus, it might get you a free card on the turn if a blank hits (opponent might go for the c/r).I think you should just call the river 3-bet; he's made it pretty clear that the river helped him, and that's going to be bad for you more often than not, I think. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 7, 2005 Share Posted May 7, 2005 If I'm at a table wher I can't limp with this hand in EP or early MP then I need to find a new table, siple as that. To the OP, you hand looks fine. IN fact you might have enough boat outs to cap the flop.We don't have enough outs...BUT, we have the best hand quite a bit. We are filling up somewhere around 38% of the time...and have the best hand another 20% (maybe more...the point is we only need the best hand 12% of the time to make it correct, I think).WRTO, so you're saying cap the flop? Cap the river?I like your odds. Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
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