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#1 gvl

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 12:41 PM

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)

MP3 ($4.15)
CO ($4.30)
Button ($2)
SB ($4.35)
BB ($2.35)
UTG ($11)
UTG+1 ($11.30)
MP1 ($3.85)
Hero ($14.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A icon_suit_club.gif , K icon_suit_spade.gif .
2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.5, MP3 raises to $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.50) 8 icon_suit_club.gif , 8 icon_suit_heart.gif , 6 icon_suit_heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO bets $2.55 (All-In), Hero folds, MP3 calls $2.40 (All-In).

I know the flop is standard at this point, but I didn't know if I should be re-raising or flat calling preflop. If flat-calling is correct, what line should we take on a flop like AT6 rainbow?
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 12:55 PM

I reraise preflop 99% of the time. On a AT6 rainbow flop I bet.

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Posted 13 April 2008 - 01:49 PM

Pushing preflop puts added pressure on both opponents because of the cold call. If you don't push then you are OOP against both and will miss the flop more than likely. Also, probably the biggest reason I would push is because of stack sizes.
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Posted 13 April 2008 - 10:15 PM

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Posted 14 April 2008 - 01:03 AM

QUOTE (Shark527 @ Sunday, April 13th, 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pushing preflop puts added pressure on both opponents because of the cold call. If you don't push then you are OOP against both and will miss the flop more than likely. Also, probably the biggest reason I would push is because of stack sizes.


Why would we want to apply "added pressure" to a Pre-flop-three-bettor and a cold overcaller without any further reads at a full ring game?
Are we hoping to make them fold their hands?

Both are shortstacked. But if they are donks and started with 2$ they might have left already after succesfully doubling up so let's just give them some credit for occasionally having a semi-playable to playable hand. Suppose we push. The three bettor is not going anywhere and CO will never fold here getting almost 4 to 1 preflop. Presonally I hardly ever see anyone get out of line with pre-flop-re-raises at these stakes in full-ring games.

Do we have enough quity if we assign

AA, KK, QQ, AK to MP3

and

AJs, AQ, JJ, TT
to the CO? (ok... and probably JK...)

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,085,637,168 games 2.063 secs 526,241,962 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 27.124% 15.42% 11.70% 167418591 127045474.00 { AsKc }
Hand 1: 49.148% 37.58% 11.57% 407945163 125628130.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2: 23.728% 23.12% 00.61% 250975620 6624190.00 { JJ-TT, AQs-AJs, KJs, AQo-AJo, KJo }
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