AbsolutKnuts 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)UTG ($33.20)Hero ($28.70)CO ($26.30)Button ($24.15)SB ($24.35)BB ($25.15)Preflop: Hero is MP with T, J. 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60.Flop: ($2.55) J, 2, 6(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2.2, SB calls $2.20, BB calls $2.20.Turn: ($9.15) 9(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $6.5, SB folds, BB calls $6.50.River: ($22.15) 7(2 players)BB bets $15.6 (All-In), Hero folds.Final Pot: $22.15Villian has been on table for maybe 7 hands, this is the first pot they've entered. I reluctantly folded here because what can i beat other than a bluff? Or does he have a busted draw and feels this is the only way of winning the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 against an unknown i'm not calling praying it's a busted fd... bc ur exactly right.. the only time ur ahead is a busted fd and against an unknown don't go near it(ok... i will sometimes call but I'll openly admit it's the wrong move)edt: don't be raising J-To w/o reads Link to post Share on other sites
AbsolutKnuts 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Share Posted April 11, 2008 Yes i realise the PF raise probably wasnt the best but i had a "feeling" Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I hate these lines that don't make any sense. Weak made hand picks up a draw on the turn? Draw picks up another draw on the turn? I think a fold is perfectly acceptable here. I am not that crazy about our hand and it's not like the river card was really even a blank. Link to post Share on other sites
AbsolutKnuts 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Author Share Posted April 11, 2008 I think looking back on it he flopped a monster (either trips with 66 or had J6) and was slow playing from the go. I very much doubt he hit two runners and made a flush or strait. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeBauer26 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I expect the "busted-draw"-Bluff-Bet rather from week players oop who checkcalled flop and turn.I fold here too, putting him on a stronger jack or flat called overpair. edt: don't be raising J-To w/o readsConfused now. Been told to not open limp :-IFold this instead? Link to post Share on other sites
Moneyball16 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Fold this instead?Yup. Link to post Share on other sites
MikeBauer26 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Yup.Tight :-I Link to post Share on other sites
KennyMatch 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I am not keen on playing JT this way.I would likely fold PF, or play PF and FLOP this way - I would definitely not call PF.I think I check behind on the turn and evaluate the river card and the bet I am faced with (Is this a place for pot control - I think it is).The bets we are placing here leads us into playing for stacks with a good but not great hand.Kinda seems like going to a big fight with a small gun. Link to post Share on other sites
IBFT 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I check turn to control pot size, but I'm a nit. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 I check turn to control pot size,I'll open JTo from the CO if I haven't been active and everyone behind me is tight (specially Button) and always on B but not earlier. Definitely check the turn w/a weak TP mediocre kicker. As played it's a fold though villain's line makes no sense. I have seen this line w/a set (though it's retarded). Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted April 11, 2008 Share Posted April 11, 2008 Yes i realise the PF raise probably wasnt the best but i had a "feeling"Feelings generally aren't good reasons to open hands pf I'd normally recommend folding JTo from hijack pf.If you checked behind on turn you wouldn't be in this situation and could see the hand to showdown. I recommend doing that with mediocre hands like this.I fold river unless I know villian is crazy.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
AbsolutKnuts 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 Feelings generally aren't good reasons to open hands pf I'd normally recommend folding JTo from hijack pf.If you checked behind on turn you wouldn't be in this situation and could see the hand to showdown. I recommend doing that with mediocre hands like this.I fold river unless I know villian is crazy.MarkYes ordinarily i dont play JT unless on the button or maybe the CO (or a free look from BB unraised). Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Tight :-IEh, not really... i like playing a loose game... but I like having some kind of history, at least 2 orbits, before i switch gears. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 You guys fold JTo from the hijack? Do you raise JTs? Link to post Share on other sites
AbsolutKnuts 0 Posted April 12, 2008 Author Share Posted April 12, 2008 You guys fold JTo from the hijack? Do you raise JTs?I think it depends on your read of the players who are left to act behind you on the table. In this situation i dont normally play JTo from here because i have no real reads on the BB but i played it anyway and lost a little money. At the end of the day JTs is only marginally better than JTo. Link to post Share on other sites
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