Naismith 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Playing 1-2NL at Foxwoods, the worst casino on earth.History so far:First hand, I was UTG. They asked me if I wanted to post. I asked if I could post-straddle. No one knew the answer, so they let me. I flopped top pair with A2 and won. Second hand, I flopped two pair with 9-2 on the BB in a limped pot and won. Third hand, I flopped two pair with 9-6 on a JJ9 board and called a pretty big bluff on the river and won. Fourth hand, I called a raise with 45hh and delayed my semi-bluff until the turn and doubled up a guy who turned two pair.Ooooookay, when I get back to UTG, I have about 240 and limp with KQcc.Folds to an older gentleman who raises to 12. He has me covered. We take the flop heads up:KT2rCheck-checkTurn:4I bet 20. He called.River: 5 (no flush possible)I bet 40. He raised 100 more. WHAT DO I DO!? Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I love being 1st in Naismith threads!Now, to read the OP... Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Old guy raised, then check-checked, called a bet, then raised a bet? ? Most old men have your nuts in a sling here. Go ahead and fold. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Normally, I'd say fold.I know you're debating between call and shove, so definitely call becuase it's closer to folding, which is the best option of all. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 do old people play as slow as they walk? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 do old people play as slow as they walk?Slower. 99 out of every 100 old men are dying to have you bet their hand for them. Which is cool, because you can also fold them off a ton of hands. Except for aces. If you think your old man has an ace, don't try to make him lay it down. He just won't. Link to post Share on other sites
NonZeroPossibility 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 You know what he has?You beat. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 Ooooh, forgot reads:This guy hadn't done anything up until this point and was old and all that so I assumed he was tight. He had a lot of money in front of him. After he raised, I tried to get him to talk, but he stared off to the side and was non-responsive. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Ooooh, forgot reads:This guy hadn't done anything up until this point and was old and all that so I assumed he was tight. He had a lot of money in front of him. After he raised, I tried to get him to talk, but he stared off to the side and was non-responsive.supermegarocketpoweredlightningfastburningupthecardsinstafoldyou have better hands to talk about than this, right? Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 supermegarocketpoweredlightningfastburningupthecardsinstafoldTypingsentencesasonewordissooooooooooooooooooootwomonthsago. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Typingsentencesasonewordissooooooooooooooooooootwomonthsago.Relax. As is the usual custom, the styles take a while to get here to the Midwest. I'm a year ahead of the crowd here by being two months behind. Link to post Share on other sites
DrawingDeadInDM 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I check/call this river a lot. I'm pretty bad though. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 the styles take a while to get here to the Midwest.No f*cking kidding. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I check/call this river a lot. I'm pretty bad though.I see no reason not to bet the river after the old man checked the flop and then elected to flat the turn. His line doesn't exactly look strong and being that it's $1/$2 NL you might as well value bet your hands instead of hoping your opponent bets them for you. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I check/call this river a lot. I'm pretty bad though.i do too, i guess i'm bad also Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 i do too, i guess i'm bad alsoya but Jay also had a hand where he is like so I raise it one off the button with 69h and I tell myself if i hit anything I am shipping it in on any flop. Well I hit a gutter and bd flush draw so I ship it and get three calls, but it runs out hearts!!!so he can bet marginal on the river Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Am I the only one that feels like he has TT here or he has nothing?Also, I value bet the river because he likely calls JJ or QQ. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 ya but Jay also had a hand where he is like so I raise it one off the button with 69h and I tell myself if i hit anything I am shipping it in on any flop. Well I hit a gutter and bd flush draw so I ship it and get three calls, but it runs out hearts!!!so he can bet marginal on the river Sir, it was only "one off the button" if UTG is one off the button. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Am I the only one that feels like he has TT here or he has nothing?Also, I value bet the river because he likely calls JJ or QQ.I agree with this. I also like the bet. When he raises, it's folding time unless you've seen him do something tricky before. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Playing 1-2NL at Foxwoods, the worst casino on earth.History so far:First hand, I was UTG. They asked me if I wanted to post. I asked if I could post-straddle. No one knew the answer, so they let me. LOL. Does anyone else appreciate this as much as I do? I mean, it's like there's a whole new precedent for winning at poker? Question: "Can I do this?"Answer: "Well, we don't know what that is ..." (random pause)Response: "Ok, let me do it then." Answer: "Ok, I guess." Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 PHEW, turns out i still suck at poker but now I spike two outers!!!!up $800 in two days! Link to post Share on other sites
gt9550 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Foxwoods is my home away from homes, it's just another card room, no better or worse then anywhere else. You can ask any of the floor people for a ruling and get different answers from each of them. I do know they are working hard to getting them all on the same page. As for the hand, am I the only person that thinks limping a KQs from UTG is a bad play to start with. I'm probably not playing that from UTG but if so, come in for a raise yourself. Try and establish some control of the hand. Then when you hit the flop like that, a bet there might be a good way to get some info. What is the check on the flop good for? Going for a check raise? I will tell you in my experience down there though that an old man playing a hand through like that probably has you beat. It could be an AK situation, Tens, or possibly even pocket 5's that just rivered him a set. Yes, some of those old guys down there will flat call that 20 on the turn becuase they think your check on the flop screamed weak. But I will be honest, I suck at poker myself, so I am only offering this input as a possible option. By all means tear it apart if it is out of line because I use this as a learning opportunity for myself. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Foxwoods is my home away from homes, it's just another card room, no better or worse then anywhere else. You can ask any of the floor people for a ruling and get different answers from each of them.These are contradictory sentences. Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 First hand, I was UTG. They asked me if I wanted to post. I asked if I could post-straddle. No one knew the answer, so they let me.Judging by your Foxwoods posts I'd just act normal, throw in a stack of about 10 $1 chips and say call. I think you have about a 75% chance of seeing the showdown. Link to post Share on other sites
gt9550 0 Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 These are contradictory sentences.Why? How? Link to post Share on other sites
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