Playing 1-2NL at Foxwoods, the worst casino on earth.
History so far:
First hand, I was UTG. They asked me if I wanted to post. I asked if I could post-straddle. No one knew the answer, so they let me. I flopped top pair with A2 and won. Second hand, I flopped two pair with 9-2 on the BB in a limped pot and won. Third hand, I flopped two pair with 9-6 on a JJ9 board and called a pretty big bluff on the river and won. Fourth hand, I called a raise with 45hh and delayed my semi-bluff until the turn and doubled up a guy who turned two pair.
Ooooookay, when I get back to UTG, I have about 240 and limp with KQcc.
Folds to an older gentleman who raises to 12. He has me covered. We take the flop heads up:
KT2r
Check-check
Turn:
4
I bet 20. He called.
River:
5 (no flush possible)
I bet 40. He raised 100 more. WHAT DO I DO!?
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Top Pair Top (only Not Top, But Close) Kicker!
Started by Naismith, Mar 28 2008 11:45 AM
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:45 AM
Peace,
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:50 AM
I love being 1st in Naismith threads!
Now, to read the OP...
Now, to read the OP...
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:52 AM
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Old guy raised, then check-checked, called a bet, then raised a bet? ?
Most old men have your nuts in a sling here.
Go ahead and fold.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:52 AM
Normally, I'd say fold.
I know you're debating between call and shove, so definitely call becuase it's closer to folding, which is the best option of all.
I know you're debating between call and shove, so definitely call becuase it's closer to folding, which is the best option of all.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 12:01 PM
do old people play as slow as they walk?
QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Monday, August 11th, 2008, 7:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If god didn't want that particular law broken, he had no business making those that big.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 12:07 PM
QUOTE (Temporary Nuts @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
do old people play as slow as they walk?
Slower.
99 out of every 100 old men are dying to have you bet their hand for them.
Which is cool, because you can also fold them off a ton of hands.
Except for aces.
If you think your old man has an ace, don't try to make him lay it down.
He just won't.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:02 PM
You know what he has?
You beat.
You beat.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:14 PM
Ooooh, forgot reads:
This guy hadn't done anything up until this point and was old and all that so I assumed he was tight. He had a lot of money in front of him. After he raised, I tried to get him to talk, but he stared off to the side and was non-responsive.
This guy hadn't done anything up until this point and was old and all that so I assumed he was tight. He had a lot of money in front of him. After he raised, I tried to get him to talk, but he stared off to the side and was non-responsive.
Peace,
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:27 PM
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 1:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ooooh, forgot reads:
This guy hadn't done anything up until this point and was old and all that so I assumed he was tight. He had a lot of money in front of him. After he raised, I tried to get him to talk, but he stared off to the side and was non-responsive.
This guy hadn't done anything up until this point and was old and all that so I assumed he was tight. He had a lot of money in front of him. After he raised, I tried to get him to talk, but he stared off to the side and was non-responsive.
supermegarocketpoweredlightningfastburningupthecardsinstafold
you have better hands to talk about than this, right?
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:28 PM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 2:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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Typingsentencesasonewordissooooooooooooooooooootwomonthsago.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:33 PM
QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 1:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Typingsentencesasonewordissooooooooooooooooooootwomonthsago.
Relax. As is the usual custom, the styles take a while to get here to the Midwest. I'm a year ahead of the crowd here by being two months behind.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 02:00 PM
I check/call this river a lot. I'm pretty bad though.
I'm also fed up with the common cold but I just hate to say goodbye.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 09:05 PM
QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 4:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
the styles take a while to get here to the Midwest.
No f*cking kidding.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 09:11 PM
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 5:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I check/call this river a lot. I'm pretty bad though.
I see no reason not to bet the river after the old man checked the flop and then elected to flat the turn. His line doesn't exactly look strong and being that it's $1/$2 NL you might as well value bet your hands instead of hoping your opponent bets them for you.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 12:43 AM
QUOTE (DrawingDeadInDM @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 6:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I check/call this river a lot. I'm pretty bad though.
i do too, i guess i'm bad also
Give me a paper and pen so I can write about my life of sin. A couple bottles of gin in case I don't get in.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 08:22 AM
QUOTE (krup24 @ Saturday, March 29th, 2008, 4:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i do too, i guess i'm bad also
ya but Jay also had a hand where he is like so I raise it one off the button with 69h and I tell myself if i hit anything I am shipping it in on any flop. Well I hit a gutter and bd flush draw so I ship it and get three calls, but it runs out hearts!!!
so he can bet marginal on the river
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:19 AM
Am I the only one that feels like he has TT here or he has nothing?
Also, I value bet the river because he likely calls JJ or QQ.
Also, I value bet the river because he likely calls JJ or QQ.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:19 AM
QUOTE (No_Neck @ Saturday, March 29th, 2008, 8:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ya but Jay also had a hand where he is like so I raise it one off the button with 69h and I tell myself if i hit anything I am shipping it in on any flop. Well I hit a gutter and bd flush draw so I ship it and get three calls, but it runs out hearts!!!
so he can bet marginal on the river
so he can bet marginal on the river
Sir, it was only "one off the button" if UTG is one off the button.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:24 AM
QUOTE (Naismith @ Saturday, March 29th, 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Am I the only one that feels like he has TT here or he has nothing?
Also, I value bet the river because he likely calls JJ or QQ.
Also, I value bet the river because he likely calls JJ or QQ.
I agree with this. I also like the bet. When he raises, it's folding time unless you've seen him do something tricky before.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 11:36 AM
QUOTE (Naismith @ Friday, March 28th, 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Playing 1-2NL at Foxwoods, the worst casino on earth.
History so far:
First hand, I was UTG. They asked me if I wanted to post. I asked if I could post-straddle. No one knew the answer, so they let me.
History so far:
First hand, I was UTG. They asked me if I wanted to post. I asked if I could post-straddle. No one knew the answer, so they let me.
LOL. Does anyone else appreciate this as much as I do? I mean, it's like there's a whole new precedent for winning at poker?
Question: "Can I do this?"
Answer: "Well, we don't know what that is ..." (random pause)
Response: "Ok, let me do it then."
Answer: "Ok, I guess."
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