mhoward29 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Villian is one of the chips leaders, LAG but has shown both good hands and bad ones. Seems like a wanna be hot shot. Does anyone play this differently? The only thing I could think of is betting the flop. But I told myself I will not be the flop but will call any turn bet because of this if it isnt a good card for me due to the villian's image.Poker StarsNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t400(Ante: t25)7 playersConverterPre-flop: (7 players) Hero is SB with :D 5 folds, Hero raises to t1600, BB calls t1200 (pot was t2175).Flop: (t3375, 2 players)Hero checks, BB checks.Turn: (t3375, 2 players)Hero checks, BB bets t1600, Hero raises t3600 (pot was t4975), BB calls t3600.River: (t6575, 2 players)Hero checks, BB bets t5200, Hero calls all-in t5103.Uncalled bets: t97 returned to BB.Final pot: t16781 Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I bet the flop 100% of the time here. You are almost certainly an equity favorite and have fold equity, both of which you'll lose with a blank turn. On the other hand, another heart on the turn may kill your action.interesting what he could have here to play this way KhQx? set? Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Need stacks..I really don't like any street to be honest..A 4x raise from the SB is just kind of overkill..Make it 3x I'm betting the flop and getting it all in here if he raises me every single time against a lagBet the turnBet the river Link to post Share on other sites
mhoward29 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 he had 8c9c Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 he had 8c9cyup, set turns into boat. poker, bah! Link to post Share on other sites
Snake Plissken 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 First of all I wouldnt make it 4xBB pre. I'd like to make it 2,5-3x. I c-bet the flop. About 1/2 of the pot. Obv keep firing when you hit the flush. Anyways, ul there Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Basically, do what Throw saidFYP Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I've been guilty of this play as well. You always have to give credit to the board. He played the flop as badly as you played the turn.As others said, 3x pf raise (2.5 doesn't exist in these), 2/3 flop, push turn, or at least, don't reraise and give pot odds to call. If you play the board here, you can give credit to the 9 and assume that he has to pair the board to beat you. It's easier said than done, but you can't assume that everybody who hits a set with a flush draw on the board is going to bet. The play in these is pretty inconsistent. Link to post Share on other sites
Kaveros 0 Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 You took the lead preflop, why slow down on the flop?At least lead the turn. Then again you were going broke in this hand no matter what. Link to post Share on other sites
mhoward29 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 You took the lead preflop, why slow down on the flop?At least lead the turn. Then again you were going broke in this hand no matter what.This person was so aggro I checked the flop to let him bet. This is the ONLY flop that I can remember him not betting on if checked to him. When he checked behind I was 100% sure he had a 9. That is why I bet the turn obv and I thought we was going to push after my bet. He played this hand 100% different than he did any other hand the whole tourney (we started at the same table and got moved together the whole time, him always being on my left).But your right, I was going broke no matter what. Oh and to all that said why 4x? Because I knew he was calling no matter what I raised except if I bet like half my stack. And I gave him a walk probably about 65% of the time when it was folded to us in the blinds. Link to post Share on other sites
Snake Plissken 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 This person was so aggro I checked the flop to let him bet. This is the ONLY flop that I can remember him not betting on if checked to him. When he checked behind I was 100% sure he had a 9. That is why I bet the turn obv and I thought we was going to push after my bet. He played this hand 100% different than he did any other hand the whole tourney (we started at the same table and got moved together the whole time, him always being on my left).But your right, I was going broke no matter what. Oh and to all that said why 4x? Because I knew he was calling no matter what I raised except if I bet like half my stack. And I gave him a walk probably about 65% of the time when it was folded to us in the blinds.knowing that, i actually like your play. ul Link to post Share on other sites
throwemaway 0 Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 This person was so aggro I checked the flop to let him bet. This is the ONLY flop that I can remember him not betting on if checked to him. When he checked behind I was 100% sure he had a 9. That is why I bet the turn obv and I thought we was going to push after my bet. He played this hand 100% different than he did any other hand the whole tourney (we started at the same table and got moved together the whole time, him always being on my left).But your right, I was going broke no matter what. Oh and to all that said why 4x? Because I knew he was calling no matter what I raised except if I bet like half my stack. And I gave him a walk probably about 65% of the time when it was folded to us in the blinds.You didn't bet the turn..You checked..again...when you made the nut flush..But yes, if he bet almost his whole range when checked to, I like checking the flop with the intention of C/RAI, because I don't think stacks are that deep that it would be an overbet Link to post Share on other sites
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