ricardob 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 My only doubt is about the river bet, was it correct?PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Hold'em (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A. 1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Button calls, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.Flop: (12 SB) 6, 3, 8(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets, MP calls, Button calls, SB calls.Turn: (8 BB) 4(4 players)SB checks, Hero bets, MP folds, Button calls, SB calls.River: (11 BB) 3(3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, Button raises, SB calls, Hero calls.Final Pot: 17 BB Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 yep. nh. it doesn't apply here so much, but something to think about when the bottom card on the board pairs is that all two pair hands just got counterfeited. so lets say you have a lot of heat heads up on a board like jt3 where a two pair is very likely. then the turn is a four and the river is a 3. ill often put in an extra raise there. Link to post Share on other sites
Shark527 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I think you played it well. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 the bet is easy, the call of the raise is discussable, or at least more so than the bet, I think Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 the bet is easy, the call of the raise is discussable, or at least more so than the bet, I thinkI agree in so much as it's a debate between calling and 3-betting, i don't think folding the river is an option(but i don't think you meant that, just clarifying).River bet is fine, and i think just calling is fine to.Also, did the converter screw this hand up or were you not UTG here? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I agree in so much as it's a debate between calling and 3-betting, i don't think folding the river is an option(but i don't think you meant that, just clarifying).actually I meant betweeen call and fold.But I like adding raise to it too.But I think calling is far ahead of the others.And I think I might suck Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 actually I meant betweeen call and fold.But I like adding raise to it too.But I think calling is far ahead of the others.And I think I might suckI agree that calling>othersBut i really would never ever fold here at .02/.04, you're getting 14-1 on a call (or something like that) and you have an overpair with no 3-flush or 4-straight on the board. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I agree that calling>othersBut i really would never ever fold here at .02/.04, you're getting 14-1 on a call (or something like that) and you have an overpair with no 3-flush or 4-straight on the board.I'm most concerned about 88. Or a 3.But this is a silly bluff or poorly played over pair enough.Do 2c/4c players bluff rivers?IMO, we re actually beat more often here in a 2c/4c game, than a say, 3/6 game Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Why does everyone suck at hand converting.Use ITH or FCP format. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Why does everyone suck at hand converting.Use ITH or FCP format.I can read it just fine.pussy. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Yeah, seems like the pics work for 1/2 of the people, for me, and others, they're just broken picture boxes.Wouldn't have this problem if people converted right! Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I was sort of trying to imply that a raise might be good here when I mentioned that two pair hands are no longer good. At this limit you are beat way too often here to do that, esprcialy considering that you would have to call a cap. Link to post Share on other sites
ricardob 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 the bet is easy, the call of the raise is discussable, or at least more so than the bet, I thinkFrom my limited experience, bluffing the river is not uncomon so in these cases I tend to call more than not. From what most of u guys say, betting and calling the raise is more profitable than checking, which was my initial idea. I guess in these cases, a good sense of the player type helps a lot, but I had just joined the table.Do 2c/4c players bluff rivers?IMO, we re actually beat more often here in a 2c/4c game, than a say, 3/6 gameThat's very much correct. I have no experience in 3/6 games, but I'm pretty sure that few to no players would call down to the river with K3s in those games.Why does everyone suck at hand converting.Use ITH or FCP format.I think I have.Thanks for the replies. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 From my limited experience, bluffing the river is not uncomon so in these cases I tend to call more than not. From what most of u guys say, betting and calling the raise is more profitable than checking, which was my initial idea. I guess in these cases, a good sense of the player type helps a lot, but I had just joined the table.That's very much correct. I have no experience in 3/6 games, but I'm pretty sure that few to no players would call down to the river with K3s in those games.I think I have.Thanks for the replies.checking that river playing against the kind of people who call you down with k3 would be bad. like really really really really bad. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I think I have.Thanks for the replies.Yeah, I dunno. These suit icons aren't showing up for like 1/2 the people. If we use ITH or FCP style from the converters I link in the stickied thread, we don't have that problem, but it's not a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites
RISEorFall 0 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 That's very much correct. I have no experience in 3/6 games, but I'm pretty sure that few to no players would call down to the river with K3s in those games.dont think that because the levels move up, the players get that much betterlast night i had AA beat by 37o UTG limper who flopped trip 3s and slowplayed to the river at 2/4 UB Link to post Share on other sites
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