2nd Pair + Nfd Facing Over-shove

[Sheiky 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #5698298518: Table Birch (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:30:58 ET - 2008/03/19Seat 1: HamsteRrr ($3.55)Seat 3: TheAbhorsen ($10.65)Seat 4: FourSeason23 ($18.95)Seat 5: RichardMcBeef90 ($10)Seat 6: Kisserella ($4.05)Kisserella posts the small blind of $0.05HamsteRrr posts the big blind of $0.10The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to RichardMcBeef90 [Qc Kc]TheAbhorsen foldsFourSeason23 raises to $0.20RichardMcBeef90 raises to $0.80Kisserella foldsHamsteRrr foldsFourSeason23 calls $0.60*** FLOP *** [2c Ac Qs]FourSeason23 checksRichardMcBeef90 bets $1.25FourSeason23 has 15 seconds left to actFourSeason23 raises to $18.15, and is all inRichardMcBeef90 ?Is this an auto call? Or are we too often reduced to just a flush draw to make calling correct? We don't get a hell of a lot of leeway with the pot odds.

[mtdesmoines 2]

Dealt to RichardMcBeef90 [Qc Kc]*** FLOP *** [2c Ac Qs]FourSeason23 raises to $18.15, and is all inRichardMcBeef90 ?Is this an auto call? Or are we too often reduced to just a flush draw to make calling correct? We don't get a hell of a lot of leeway with the pot odds.

I think it's ok to shove here.

[Webslinger516 0]

I think it's a close one here and I don't think you lose much or win much in the long run either way.Best case scenario is that he's bluffing with a naked flush draw which you have crushed.Likely scenario is that he has something like AJ, so you're drawing live to a K, a Q, or a club, and you're about even money.Worst case scenario is that he has a set of deuces or AQ, where you'd be drawing to a club only.If I felt like gambling I'd call, that's all it comes down to in my opinion.

[Canute 0]

Full Tilt Poker Game #5698298518: Table Birch (6 max) - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 13:30:58 ET - 2008/03/19Seat 1: HamsteRrr ($3.55)Seat 3: TheAbhorsen ($10.65)Seat 4: FourSeason23 ($18.95)Seat 5: RichardMcBeef90 ($10)Seat 6: Kisserella ($4.05)Kisserella posts the small blind of $0.05HamsteRrr posts the big blind of $0.10The button is in seat #5*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to RichardMcBeef90 [Qc Kc]TheAbhorsen foldsFourSeason23 raises to $0.20RichardMcBeef90 raises to $0.80Kisserella foldsHamsteRrr foldsFourSeason23 calls $0.60*** FLOP *** [2c Ac Qs]FourSeason23 checksRichardMcBeef90 bets $1.25FourSeason23 has 15 seconds left to actFourSeason23 raises to $18.15, and is all inRichardMcBeef90 ?Is this an auto call? Or are we too often reduced to just a flush draw to make calling correct? We don't get a hell of a lot of leeway with the pot odds.

That shove seems to indicate a some weakness. He seems to be protecting his hand, so I could see him having a strong ace or a flush draw or even something weaker but not a set or two pair. Even if you do run into a set, you still have some club outs. Also, the times you are up against a set can probably be balanced by the times you are up against a smaller club draw or KK or something crazy like that. So, it is very likely you are about 1 to 1 to win it. Also, you only have about $8 left to call and there is about $11 in the pot. So your hand odds are likely 1 to 1 while the pot is offering 1.4 to 1. So, I think calling is slightly +EV. A fold is not a bad second choice but I think calling is the best choice.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Isn't it obvious that we're crushing his ? Seriously though, calling or folding here are both probably fine.