47 replies to this topic

[Evastian]

Yeah. Many players run community cards multiple times, and I was wondering if any online poker sites actually have this option. Never really seen it talked about, but if it's a popular choice for many live players, why shouldn't it be equally as popular online?

[Ko8e34]

I've never seen the running it twice thing happen anywhere other than on HSP. Does it happen at mid-high stakes live?

[Evastian]

I've never really seen it anywhere except on HSP either, but if it's good in principle in certain occasions at high stakes, it should be equally valid at any stakes.

[TB17]

I was at Fallsview and I managed to get it all in against a shorty and I flipped up TT, he flipped AK and I asked if he wanted to run it twice. Nobody had a clue what I meant. Then the dealer asked the floorperson and he actually heard about it but said it wasn't allowed.

[silkyjonson]

threeve

[bigcoled]

Evastian, on Monday, March 10th, 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

I've never really seen it anywhere except on HSP either

lol!

[Evastian]

bigcoled, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 4:34 PM, said:

lol!

Care to elaborate, or can your condescending remarks only extend to three letters and zero words?

[TB17]

Evastian, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 1:20 AM, said:

Care to elaborate, or can your condescending remarks only extend to three letters and zero words?

pwned imo.

[bigcoled]

Evastian, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 12:20 AM, said:

Care to elaborate, or can your condescending remarks only extend to three letters and zero words?

Do you seriously expect an online site to offer this?!! What are they going to do pause on every hand to see how many times you want to run it? Maybe they should have an admin at every single table on the site to moderate this and ask each player if they'd like to run it once twice three times or 4 times....That is ridiculous and you sir are ridiculous.... The rest of your life will be a joke....sorry for the bad beat, sometimes it's just the hand you're dealt...

[antistuff]

bigcoled, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 5:01 AM, said:

Do you seriously expect an online site to offer this?!! What are they going to do pause on every hand to see how many times you want to run it? Maybe they should have an admin at every single table on the site to moderate this and ask each player if they'd like to run it once twice three times or 4 times....That is ridiculous and you sir are ridiculous.... The rest of your life will be a joke....sorry for the bad beat, sometimes it's just the hand you're dealt...

whats it like to be this dumb? are the hours good? the pay? do you get full health and dental?

[TrueAce13]

antistuff, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 2:19 AM, said:

whats it like to be this dumb? are the hours good? the pay? do you get full health and dental?

Winner :icon_clap:Seriously dude. He just asked a question. Maybe in the higher stake games he is asking about. Though I don't know, probably not. Though it would be fairly dominating to see how Pokerstars could manage to cooler someone when they ask to run it 3 times

[bigcoled]

antistuff, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 1:19 AM, said:

whats it like to be this dumb? are the hours good? the pay? do you get full health and dental?

Explain.......

[bigcoled]

Evastian, on Monday, March 10th, 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

Yeah. Many players run community cards multiple times, and I was wondering if any online poker sites actually have this option. Never really seen it talked about, but if it's a popular choice for many live players, why shouldn't it be equally as popular online?

Evastian, on Monday, March 10th, 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

I've never really seen it anywhere except on HSP either, but if it's good in principle in certain occasions at high stakes, it should be equally valid at any stakes.

Good enough?

[bigcoled]

Besides the joke on what the OP has said.... The concept would be very diffcult, if not impossible... It would slow down the game and it would have to offer to run it twice everytime a player was all in, while only offering it at NL/PL cash games... It would also only be able to offer run it twice (not 3 or 4 times, etc) without moderation from an Administrator of the site... It would take immense changes in the software and would the worth of this would never be anywhere near worth the hassel....

[antistuff]

bigcoled, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 5:28 AM, said:

Besides the joke on what the OP has said.... The concept would be very diffcult, if not impossible... It would slow down the game and it would have to offer to run it twice everytime a player was all in, while only offering it at NL/PL cash games... It would also only be able to offer run it twice (not 3 or 4 times, etc) without moderation from an Administrator of the site... It would take immense changes in the software and would the worth of this would never be anywhere near worth the hassel....

uhhh......no.very few hands end up in an allin. when players are allin and the action is done little buttons pop up. they could pop up where the check bet fold buttons are. they would ask if you would like to run it twice. the players would have like ten seconds or something to hit yes or no. if it times out its an automatic no. there could also be options somewhere for always run it twice/never run it twice. this would not slow down the game significantly.i haven't seen the code for any poker sites but as a decent programmer i can take an educated guess that this would not be hard to implement.

[bigcoled]

antistuff, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 1:36 AM, said:

uhhh......no.very few hands end up in an allin. when players are allin and the action is done little buttons pop up. they could pop up where the check bet fold buttons are. they would ask if you would like to run it twice. the players would have like ten seconds or something to hit yes or no. if it times out its an automatic no. there could also be options somewhere for always run it twice/never run it twice. this would not slow down the game significantly.i haven't seen the code for any poker sites but as a decent programmer i can take an educated guess that this would not be hard to implement.

It will definatley never ever happen... There would be alot of work because they wouldn't just change the programming and let it fly, they would have to change the programming and repeatedly test it to be sure it doesn't create any errors or glitches, then remedy any errors of glitches... I mean you aren't just changing the number of players at a table or changing the blind structure, you're actually changing the interface to include an entirely new feature... A new feature that will in no drastic way change the number of players at their site... Also it will have to only allow it in cash games that are NL/ PL

[TrueAce13]

antistuff, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 2:36 AM, said:

uhhh......no.very few hands end up in an allin. when players are allin and the action is done little buttons pop up. they could pop up where the check bet fold buttons are. they would ask if you would like to run it twice. the players would have like ten seconds or something to hit yes or no. if it times out its an automatic no. there could also be options somewhere for always run it twice/never run it twice. this would not slow down the game significantly.i haven't seen the code for any poker sites but as a decent programmer i can take an educated guess that this would not be hard to implement.

I wish sites would read this and put this into the game! This idea is very dominating

[antistuff]

bigcoled, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 5:41 AM, said:

It will definatley never ever happen... There would be alot of work because they wouldn't just change the programming and let it fly, they would have to change the programming and repeatedly test it to be sure it doesn't create any errors or glitches, then remedy any errors of glitches... I mean you aren't just changing the number of players at a table or changing the blind structure, you're actually changing the interface to include an entirely new feature... A new feature that will in no drastic way change the number of players at their site... Also it will have to only allow it in cash games that are NL/ PL

yawn.assuming the code was written in an even halfway sensible way, for somebody familiar with it (like the people who wrote it) adding it as a feature probably borders on being trivial.

[Evastian]

bigcoled, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 7:28 PM, said:

It would take immense changes in the software and would the worth of this would never be anywhere near worth the hassel....

What stakes do you play at?I ask because precisely ZERO hardcore online professionals (yes, there are many) would consider a potentially +EV situation to be too much "hassel"? You think a full table of 50/100 players don't care or know about their game enough to realise where dealing it twice is beneficial?I'm not saying that deal it twice is something they should do all the time, but giving professionals more options (if possible) seems to be a valid avenue of interest.As for your comment mentioning that I've only seen it played on HSP, but assume it to be popular...so what? Do I need to rail every live game on the planet to understand that a basic poker option can be popular? Think outside the box and beyond your computer monitor.

[chgocubs99]

antistuff, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 4:36 AM, said:

uhhh......no.very few hands end up in an allin. when players are allin and the action is done little buttons pop up. they could pop up where the check bet fold buttons are. they would ask if you would like to run it twice. the players would have like ten seconds or something to hit yes or no. if it times out its an automatic no. there could also be options somewhere for always run it twice/never run it twice. this would not slow down the game significantly.i haven't seen the code for any poker sites but as a decent programmer i can take an educated guess that this would not be hard to implement.

QFT

Evastian, on Tuesday, March 11th, 2008, 5:52 AM, said:

What stakes do you play at?I ask because precisely ZERO hardcore online professionals (yes, there are many) would consider a potentially +EV situation to be too much "hassel"? You think a full table of 50/100 players don't care or know about their game enough to realise where dealing it twice is beneficial?I'm not saying that deal it twice is something they should do all the time, but giving professionals more options (if possible) seems to be a valid avenue of interest.As for your comment mentioning that I've only seen it played on HSP, but assume it to be popular...so what? Do I need to rail every live game on the planet to understand that a basic poker option can be popular? Think outside the box and beyond your computer monitor.

No. Running it twice does not change the EV of the situation at all, only limits the variance.