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[grocery_mony]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/artic...uit-final-table

[TravisG]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/artic...uit-final-table

hahahahahahahahaa. i think they took the flames about their behaviour with jamie gold serious.

[El Guapo]

bizzare. Hopefully this makes the WSOP fun to watch on TV again.

[HollywoodAFD]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/artic...uit-final-table

LESLEY S. THORNBURG OF RICHMOND , VA
Lifetime Winnings: $19,026 *
2008 POY Rank: 418
Most Recent Cash: $19,026 : No-Limit Hold'em Event 1


Im sure alcohol had nothing to do with this

[mhoward29]

Being a douche > Thousands of $

[fatman]

http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news/artic...uit-final-table

lol

[Vtlaxer09]

I think I would be pissed as **** if I were one of the remaining players after the disqualification because all of his chips were removed. This event probably turned into a crapshoot at that time w/ a very poor chip/blind ratio.

Thats what I took out of it.

[Abbaddabba]

lol?

him being removed is obviously in the interest of all the remaining players.


i cant see how anyone with even an elementary understanding of how poker and tournaments work would think otherwise.

[Vtlaxer09]

lol?

him being removed is obviously in the interest of all the remaining players.
i cant see how anyone with even an elementary understanding of how poker and tournaments work would think otherwise.

Im not saying its not.... but as you put it... anyone with even an elementary understanding of poker and tournaments would think that playing a tournament minus at least 1/4 of the chips in play with the same blind structure is ludicrous and unfair.

[Cappy37]

lol.. Did the Tournament Director cite the "Lance Funston" rule? Or the "Ellix Powers"?

[mhoward29]

Where's Jerry Lesley S. Thornburg???

[aucu]

Im not saying its not.... but as you put it... anyone with even an elementary understanding of poker and tournaments would think that playing a tournament minus at least 1/4 of the chips in play with the same blind structure is ludicrous and unfair.

Nothing unfair about it they all still have the same M as they did befor the chips were pulled.

Best thing they have done in a long time.

[freak2304]

Nothing unfair about it they all still have the same M as they did befor the chips were pulled.

Best thing they have done in a long time.

Word. Also, 20% (or whatever the actual # is) less chips they have to accumulate and one less player to knock out to win the tournament.

[Vtlaxer09]

Nothing unfair about it they all still have the same M as they did befor the chips were pulled.

Best thing they have done in a long time.

are u kidding me???

1. He's obviously a terrible player so I would be pissed that so many chips were taken out of play that would be pretty easy to pick up imo.
2. Sure you have the same M... but a few levels from now..............
3. A tournament with little to no play in the later stages to begin with is no an absolute luckfest.


There is noone that sees my reasoning here?

[freak2304]

are u kidding me???

1. He's obviously a terrible player so I would be pissed that so many chips were taken out of play that would be pretty easy to pick up imo.
2. Sure you have the same M... but a few levels from now..............
3. A tournament with little to no play in the later stages to begin with is no an absolute luckfest.
There is noone that sees my reasoning here?

I see what you're saying, but I think the other side's argument is a bit better, IMO.

[Vtlaxer09]

I see what you're saying, but I think the other side's argument is a bit better, IMO.

I agree that the douche should have been dq'd... but something should have been done about blinds... or redistributing chips.. etc.

[FCP Bob]

are u kidding me???

1. He's obviously a terrible player so I would be pissed that so many chips were taken out of play that would be pretty easy to pick up imo.
2. Sure you have the same M... but a few levels from now..............
3. A tournament with little to no play in the later stages to begin with is no an absolute luckfest.
There is noone that sees my reasoning here?

We understand your reasoning it's just that the value of removing the chip leader and his chips and bumping you up one spot at least is way way way way way way way way way way more important.

[bdc30]

i can't access the article at work - can someone pm it to me or just copy/paste it here?

[freak2304]

i can't access the article at work - can someone pm it to me or just copy/paste it here?

Player Gets the Boot for Unsportsmanlike Behavior
The first event of the World Series of Poker Circuit series at Caesars Atlantic City attracted a whopping 1,056 players, and the final table was marked by a bit of weirdness when a player, who was the chip leader at the time, was disqualified in fifth place for “unsportsmanlike behavior.”

The $300 buy-in no-limit hold’em event, which attracted one of the largest fields in the Circuit’s history, was won by Frank Panetta, a 76-year-old former real estate developer from Brick, New Jersey. He won $76,104.

But Panetta’s victory was overshadowed by the antics of Lesley S. Thornburg, who, according to a tournament report written by Nolan Dalla, the WSOP media director, received two warnings for unsportsmanlike behavior during the event’s first day for “a ceaseless display of loud comments and baiting tactics lasting several hours.”

With seven players left, Thornburg ended up all-in against Andy Santiago, who had Thornburg dominated with A-Q versus A-7. But a 7 on the flop gave the unorthodox Thornburg the chip lead, to the dismay of the remaining players, who were forced to further endure Thornburg’s tactics.

Two hands later, Thornburg again caught lighting in a bottle when he called an all-in raise by Edward “Yank” Sullivan, who held pocket sevens. Thornburg held pocket fours, but a four flopped and knocked Sullivan out of the tournament. He earned $15,855.

This is when things turned weird. Here’s what Dalla wrote about the situation:

“Then, all hell broke loose. Literally. Holding onto a perilous chip lead, Thornburg lost self-control and began jamming chips into the pot with reckless abandon. Warned by tournament officials (repeatedly) to stack his chips properly and obey the rules, Thornburg crossed the final demarcation of everyone’s patience when he shoved half of his stack into the pot and then later announced, “all in.” Fed up with the annoying and confusing antics, officials announced Thornburg’s immediate disqualification. Lesley Thornburg, a general contractor from Richmond, Va., earned $19,026 in prize money.”

Thornburg’s chips were then removed from play, and the tournament continued fourhanded.

The top nine finishers and their payouts follow:

Frank Panetta — $76,104
Andy Santiago — $42,824
Todd Rebello — $25,368
Lee Ervin — $22,197
Lesley S. Thornburg (disqualified) — $19,026
Edward “Yank” Sullivan — $15,855
Donald Mercer — $12,684
“Karate” Mike Santoro — $9,513
Francis Snyder — $6,342
Click here for the complete schedule of the WSOP Circuit event at Caesars Atlantic City.

[Chicago99]

are u kidding me???

1. He's obviously a terrible player so I would be pissed that so many chips were taken out of play that would be pretty easy to pick up imo.
2. Sure you have the same M... but a few levels from now..............
3. A tournament with little to no play in the later stages to begin with is no an absolute luckfest.
There is noone that sees my reasoning here?

I agree with your reasoning regarding the blinds in a couple of levels, though its hard to say people aren't better off with the chipleader d/q'd.

Maybe you are trying to say that his chips should have been split proportionally among his opponents? That would make the most sense.