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[digitalmonkey]

You are a huge fan of TEAM X. You have the ability to determine your team's fate for the next 14 seasons. Which one of the following options would you choose for your team?

OPTION A:

The team makes the playoffs 8 times in those 14 years.
They lose in the first round 4 times.
They lose in the second round 3 times.
They win the Stanley Cup once.

Total series wins: 7
Total Stanley Cups: 1

OPTION B:

The team makes the playoffs 10 times in those 14 years.
They lose in the first round 3 times.
They lose in the second round 3 times.
They lose in the third round 4 times.

Total series wins: 11
Total Stanley Cups: 0

[Whiter Sr]

You are a huge fan of TEAM X. You have the ability to determine your team's fate for the next 14 seasons. Which one of the following options would you choose for your team?

OPTION A:

The team makes the playoffs 8 times in those 14 years.
They lose in the first round 4 times.
They lose in the second round 3 times.
They win the Stanley Cup once.

Total series wins: 7
Total Stanley Cups: 1

OPTION B:

The team makes the playoffs 10 times in those 14 years.
They lose in the first round 3 times.
They lose in the second round 3 times.
They lose in the third round 4 times.

Total series wins: 11
Total Stanley Cups: 0

I think this is an obvious option A

[Fenxis]

OPTION A:

Without a hesitation.

The non-cup success of the two profiles is basically the same otherwise.

[serge]

its a stupid question..YOu cant choose after the fact...

Team B gives themselves more chances at a CUP

Therefore monkey donkey doesnt make sense.

[digitalmonkey]

its a stupid question..YOu cant choose after the fact...

Team B gives themselves more chances at a CUP

Therefore monkey donkey doesnt make sense.

Your post makes little sense.


Winning the Cup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>more chances at winning without doing so

[MapleLeafpoker]

I'll take the Habs.

[serge]

Your post makes little sense.
Winning the Cup >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>more chances at winning without doing so

ok so lets take out your team a b x or y, or whatever you want to call them..

Who has been more succesful in the last 14 years since the Habs won the Cup..

The Leafs?Or the Habs?

In your twisted theory its the same...

[Fenxis]

ok so lets take out your team a b x or y, or whatever you want to call them..

Who has been more succesful in the last 14 years since the Habs won the Cup..

The Leafs?Or the Habs?

In your twisted theory its the same...

Well if you strictly look at the last 14 years (in isolation) then yes, Toronto has been more successful.

[troyomac]

Obviously option A since you already know you're going to win a cup.

But say you don't know the results, you just know that option A is going to be mediocre at best and need to get extremely lucky to go on a cinderella run and get the cup, and that option B will be a decent team giving usually making the playoffs and going deep many years, then that's the obvious choice.

Results oriented though, you have to say A.

[serge]

Obviously option A since you already know you're going to win a cup.

But say you don't know the results, you just know that option A is going to be mediocre at best and need to get extremely lucky to go on a cinderella run and get the cup, and that option B will be a decent team giving usually making the playoffs and going deep many years, then that's the obvious choice.

Results oriented though, you have to say A.

Isnt that exactly what I said..Team B has more chances at a Cup...Therefore team B..

Poker analogy..What would you rather have AA or 10J suited AFTER knowing that 10J suited will win 7 out of the next 10 hands..?

Obviously heads up AA is the better hand and you will take aces, but AFTER the fact you will go with 10J suited.

[digitalmonkey]

ok so lets take out your team a b x or y, or whatever you want to call them..

Who has been more succesful in the last 14 years since the Habs won the Cup..

The Leafs?Or the Habs?

In your twisted theory its the same...

Your definition of success and mine are not the same. Being a mediocre team and winning playoff series' yet NEVER making it to the finals or winning a Cup is not success to me. Success to me is winning the Cup. If you can't win the Cup then you need to do something that increases your chances of winning it again in the future (i.e. draft well, sign quality free agents, good trades). Montreal has been successful in drafting welll and developing their own talent and will soon be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender.

The Leafs are a mediocre team...have been for awhile and all signs point to continued mediocrity. It's not a bad thing to those that are fine with mediocrity which it seems a lot of Leaf fans are.

[serge]

Your definition of success and mine are not the same. Being a mediocre team and winning playoff series' yet NEVER making it to the finals or winning a Cup is not success to me. Success to me is winning the Cup. If you can't win the Cup then you need to do something that increases your chances of winning it again in the future (i.e. draft well, sign quality free agents, good trades). Montreal has been successful in drafting welll and developing their own talent and will soon be a legitimate Stanley Cup contender.

The Leafs are a mediocre team...have been for awhile and all signs point to continued mediocrity. It's not a bad thing to those that are fine with mediocrity which it seems a lot of Leaf fans are.

We are just looking at the last 14 years, not the last 40....Toronto Stanley Cup ZERO Montreal Stanley Cups ZERO..

Leafs playoff series wins 9 Montreal 3

So who is better the last 14 years?

[serge]

oh and if you are interested in upping our total points bet, i will to $10 a pt , if you extend to 5 years.

[MrJohn]

I'd go with Option A. Who knows what will happen after the 14 years? I'd want to guarantee at least one Stanley Cup during my 14 years.

[digitalmonkey]

Obviously option A since you already know you're going to win a cup.

But say you don't know the results, you just know that option A is going to be mediocre at best and need to get extremely lucky to go on a cinderella run and get the cup, and that option B will be a decent team giving usually making the playoffs and going deep many years, then that's the obvious choice.

Results oriented though, you have to say A.

Option A: the team missed the playoffs 6 times in the 14 years.

Option B: the team missed the playoffs 4 times in the 14 years.

[digitalmonkey]

We are just looking at the last 14 years, not the last 40....Toronto Stanley Cup ZERO Montreal Stanley Cups ZERO..

Leafs playoff series wins 9 Montreal 3

So who is better the last 14 years?

Who brought up 40 years?

Why not the last 15 seasons? Why not the last two seasons? It's sad and funny that you need to spin things in order to make the Leafs seem more successful than they actually are.

[digitalmonkey]

oh and if you are interested in upping our total points bet, i will to $10 a pt , if you extend to 5 years.

I will keep the current bet as is and start another with you if you like. What seasons would you like to include in the new bet?

[serge]

I will keep the current bet as is and start another with you if you like. What seasons would you like to include in the new bet?

if you like a new bet, we can start another one next year...

My team is so good right now, with even better outlook..

[troyomac]

Option A: the team missed the playoffs 6 times in the 14 years.

Option B: the team missed the playoffs 4 times in the 14 years.

14 is such a small sample size, that 2 extra times is quite a bit.

A: 57% making the playoffs
B: 71% making the playoffs

Fairly big difference.

Also add onto that,

A: 1 round 2 wins
B: 4 round 2 wins


It's not really even close IMO

[digitalmonkey]

14 is such a small sample size, that 2 extra times is quite a bit.

A: 57% making the playoffs
B: 71% making the playoffs

Fairly big difference.

Also add onto that,

A: 1 round 2 wins
B: 4 round 2 winsIt's not really even close IMO

Is that not results oriented?

Also, thank god for Ottawa...4 series wins were against the Senators.