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[KDawgCometh]

okay sorry. I had gotten my BR up to 3400, and then the wheels fell off and I dropped down to 2500 at one point, but have rescued my BR a little bit. I got in like 7400 hands, of which I'd say about 6K were on a full out downswing. Instead of posting my reports I was trying to get in as many hands as possible. So here is part 1 which cover Apr. 25-29Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kd], [Ac]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [7c], [7d], [3h] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.Turn: (5 BB) [8d] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.here's a question, should I fold to this turn raise? or was I getting enough odds to call the raise?River: (9 BB) [5d] (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 9 BBResults in white below: Hero has Kd Ac (one pair, sevens). SB has 8s Ad (two pair, eights and sevens). Outcome: SB wins 9 BB. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [Ac], [Jh]. 1 fold.Flop: (7 SB) [As], [6c], [2h] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.I think this threebet is okay since No one raised meTurn: (8 BB) [2d] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, Hero calls.uhh. I get raised again. WTFRiver: (12 BB) [8h] (2 players)Hero checks, CO checks.Final Pot: 12 BBResults in white below: Hero has Ac Jh (two pair, aces and twos). CO has Kh Ad (two pair, aces and twos). Outcome: CO wins 12 BB. hrmm. Cold Donked my raise. If I had been threebet then I probably would gone into a wa/wb line, ugh--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [Qh], [Qd]. CO posts a blind of $4. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.everyone and their mother called. but I have QQ and an equity edge so I raiseFlop: (16.33 SB) [3s], [4d], [5h] (8 players)SB bets, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.can I fold this flop?Turn: (20.66 BB) [2s] (6 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.massive pot, but there is no way even with a twop outer will I be able to wuin against this field. Relectant foldRiver: (26.66 BB) [2h] (4 players)UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 32.66 BBResults in white below: UTG+1 has 5s 5c (full house, fives full of twos). UTG+2 has Ah 6c (straight, six high). MP2 has 3d 3h (full house, threes full of twos). MP3 has Kc 6d (straight, six high). Outcome: UTG+1 wins 32.66 BB. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------here's some frustration for youParty Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [6s], [6d]. 4 folds.looks like a 'Hijack steal to meFlop: (5 SB) [Qc], [Ad], [Tc] (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets, MP3 calls.I was just trying to make a move on an opponent who is prone to raising with weak handsTurn: (4.50 BB) [5d] (2 players)Hero bets, MP3 calls.okay, I give upRiver: (6.50 BB) [9h] (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 7.50 BBResults in white below: MP3 doesn't show. Outcome: MP3 wins 7.50 BB. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Qd], [Ac]. 3 folds, MP2 calls.Flop: (7.33 SB) [Ah], [6s], [4d] (4 players)MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls.TP2K is getting 3bet here no question. With this board I doubt the cold donker hit a setTurn: (6.66 BB) [8c] (3 players)he went all-in for 1/3 of a BB hereRiver: (6.66 BB) [Ts] (3 players)Final Pot: 6.66 BBResults in white below: UTG+1 doesn't show. Hero has Qd Ac (one pair, aces). CO has Ad 6h (two pair, aces and sixes). Outcome: CO wins 6.66 BB. donk----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [Th], [Ad]. 1 fold, Hero checks.if it was soooted I would've raisedFlop: (4.33 SB) [6s], [Ts], [Kc] (4 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.yeah, I play gootTurn: (5.16 BB) [Kh] (3 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.this is a great card for me. it will be an easy fold if raised, if I'm not, I just have to dodge the flushRiver: (7.16 BB) [3c] (2 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 folds.which I doFinal Pot: 8.16 BBResults in white below: Hero has Th Ad (two pair, kings and tens). Outcome: Hero wins 8.16 BB. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ah], [Ad]. 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) [6d], [Kc], [4h] (3 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [9d] (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.cred, how does the nine help you. easy 3bet, IMORiver: (13 BB) [5c] (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 15 BBResults in white below: BB has 9h 9s (three of a kind, nines). Hero has Ah Ad (one pair, aces). Outcome: BB wins 15 BB. ohh a two outer. /shrug. motherfucker-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is Button with [Jh], [Ah]. 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Flop: (8.33 SB) [Jc], [5d], [8h] (4 players)BB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.TPTK so I'm raising hereTurn: (8.16 BB) [4c] (4 players)BB bets, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.uhh utg+1 pulls a stop-n-go. I think I might actually fold to a raise as it look like a set stop-n-go lineRiver: (14.16 BB) [Td] (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.he didn't raise the turn so I look at this as a value bet. I think he has a worse JFinal Pot: 16.16 BBResults in white below: Hero has Jh Ah (one pair, jacks). BB has 8s Js (two pair, jacks and eights). Outcome: BB wins 16.16 BB. or two pair. meh--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [Ah], [Jd]. 3 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (7.33 SB) [As], [9d], [Jh] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.I'm looking to pop him on the turn hereTurn: (4.66 BB) [Ks] (2 players)Hero checks, Button checks.damn. I wanted to cr this guy badlyRiver: (4.66 BB) [Qd] (2 players)Hero bets, Button calls.here's a dumb betFinal Pot: 6.66 BBResults in white below: Hero has Ah Jd (two pair, aces and jacks). Button has Qh Qc (three of a kind, queens). Outcome: Button wins 6.66 BB. meh. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [7h], [7d]. 1 fold, BB checks.Flop: (2.33 SB) [Jh], [Ah], [Js] (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.I think I'll fire a bullet hereTurn: (2.16 BB) [4h] (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.should've checked hereRiver: (4.16 BB) [7c] (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.jackpot!!! donk was slowplaying trip jacks and I just caught himFinal Pot: 12.16 BBResults in white below: BB has 4s Jd (full house, jacks full of fours). Hero has 7h 7d (full house, sevens full of jacks). Outcome: BB wins 12.16 BB. D'OH. underfulls suck---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------that's all for part I. I got in around 7400 hands during this period. Got my BR up to 3400 and got it down to 2500starting BR-3,250.44ending BR-3,003.54(as of yesterday)

[NickTheKid]

Wow you really got fucked on a lot of those. No dice my friend.. no dice. At least you outplayed them. /shrug

[KDawgCometh]

I've definetly had a change of heart regarding AJo. It comes more from me posting a few hands at 2+2 and seeing posted hands there when people limp with it. I was also annoyed at the suckout you put on me :wink:

[DKE_XP120]

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Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is Button with [Jh], [Ah]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. Flop: (8.33 SB) [Jc], [5d], [8h] (4 players) BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls. TPTK so I'm raising here Turn: (8.16 BB) [4c] (4 players) BB bets, UTG+1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, UTG+1 calls. uhh utg+1 pulls a stop-n-go. I think I might actually fold to a raise as it look like a set stop-n-go line

Should I be raising TKTP against a stop and go and fold to a raise, or would it be better to just call it down... (assuming the board doesnt do anything too scary)Either way its 2 bets to you, but calling it down gets to see the showdown. I guess there is a possibility of him folding, but I dont see it happening if he's pulling a stop and go

[wrto4556]

The AK hand, you can fold to the turn check/raiseAA, you should slowdown when you get check/raised on the turn.66, you should fold on the AQT flop. What are you beatting?

[MrNiceGuy]

[quote name='"Zarathustra"][quote=KDawgCometh]Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kd]' date=' [Ac']. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [7c], [7d], [3h] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.Turn: (5 BB) [8d] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.here's a question, should I fold to this turn raise? or was I getting enough odds to call the raise?I say no. You're only getting 8:1 on the call with your only outs being overcard outs. even assuming all of the K's and A's are live you make it as about 6.5:1 dog. However, you could also be drawing dead if they have a 7, 88 or 33 and slim if they have A8 or K8 (13.7:1 dog). The check/raise on the turn reeks of strength and they don't have to have a problem hand very often for it to be unprofitable call.With this in mind I think it's an easy fold as even if all of your cards are live, you're only barely getting the right odds to call.River: (9 BB) [5d] (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 9 BBResults in white below: Hero has Kd Ac (one pair, sevens). SB has 8s Ad (two pair, eights and sevens). Outcome: SB wins 9 BB. Imagine how much this would have cost if you'd hit the A on the river. I'm guessing 1 bet, if the SB leads into you, and 2 if he goes for another check/raise.[/quote]I was gonna say roughly the same thing on the turn pot odds, then I saw Zarathustra's response. Yeah, unless you think it's highly likely he's bluffing with zilch, you hafta fold.Do you always make the turn bet here? Against opponents who are willing to fold, okay, but if opponents have been paying attention, they'll know that you likely just have overcards here, and will count on you to bet for them. In this case SB got lucky, and god knows what UTG+1 called on the flop with; but it seems like usually, opponents that would call you on the flop would either have a 7, a 3, or a set. (or a really loose player might have a gutshot). I can see the case for betting again on the turn - you might buy the pot (or get value from loose callers) or win a free showdown. But does this work often enough (vs. the number of times you run into a slow-played seven or pair) to make it worth it? Just wondering.

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

The AK hand, you can fold to the turn check/raiseAA, you should slowdown when you get check/raised on the turn.66, you should fold on the AQT flop. What are you beatting?

nothing, it was a bad bluff :cry:

[Absolute]

[quote=KDawgCometh]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kd], [Ac].    1 fold, UTG+1 calls.Flop: (7 SB) [7c], [7d], [3h] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.Turn: (5 BB) [8d] (3 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.here's a question, should I fold to this turn raise? or was I getting enough odds to call the raise?River: (9 BB) [5d] (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 9 BBResults in white below:  Hero has Kd Ac (one pair, sevens).  SB has 8s Ad (two pair, eights and sevens).  Outcome: SB wins 9 BB.  Fold the turn.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with [Ac], [Jh].    1 fold.Flop: (7 SB) [As], [6c], [2h] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.I think this threebet is okay since No one raised meTurn: (8 BB) [2d] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, Hero calls.uhh. I get raised again. WTFRiver: (12 BB) [8h] (2 players)Hero checks, CO checks.Final Pot: 12 BBResults in white below:  Hero has Ac Jh (two pair, aces and twos).  CO has Kh Ad (two pair, aces and twos).  Outcome: CO wins 12 BB.  hrmm. Cold Donked my raise. If I had been threebet then I probably would gone into a wa/wb line, ugh[/quote]Yikes. That's the breaks. Don't know how he missed that river bet. buddy list this passive fool.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is BB with [Qh], [Qd]. CO posts a blind of $4. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls.everyone and their mother called. but I have QQ and an equity edge so I raiseFlop: (16.33 SB) [3s], [4d], [5h] (8 players)SB bets, Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.can I fold this flop?Turn: (20.66 BB) [2s] (6 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero folds, UTG+1 calls.massive pot, but there is no way even with a twop outer will I be able to wuin against this field. Relectant foldRiver: (26.66 BB) [2h] (4 players)UTG+1 bets, MP3 calls, UTG+1 calls.Final Pot: 32.66 BBResults in white below: UTG+1 has 5s 5c (full house, fives full of twos). UTG+2 has Ah 6c (straight, six high). MP2 has 3d 3h (full house, threes full of twos). MP3 has Kc 6d (straight, six high). Outcome: UTG+1 wins 32.66 BB. Wow talk about a massive pot.I think calling the flop and folding the turn UI is best. Would you have folded for two bets if the turn was a 10? I hope so...[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is SB with [6s], [6d]. 4 folds.looks like a 'Hijack steal to meFlop: (5 SB) [Qc], [Ad], [Tc] (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets, MP3 calls.I was just trying to make a move on an opponent who is prone to raising with weak handsTurn: (4.50 BB) [5d] (2 players)Hero bets, MP3 calls.okay, I give upRiver: (6.50 BB) [9h] (2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets, Hero folds.Final Pot: 7.50 BBResults in white below: MP3 doesn't show. Outcome: MP3 wins 7.50 BB. NOW we know why you are having a "downswing"=)[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is BB with [Th], [Ad]. 1 fold, Hero checks.if it was soooted I would've raisedFlop: (4.33 SB) [6s], [Ts], [Kc] (4 players)Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.yeah, I play gootTurn: (5.16 BB) [Kh] (3 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, MP1 folds.this is a great card for me. it will be an easy fold if raised, if I'm not, I just have to dodge the flushRiver: (7.16 BB) [3c] (2 players)Hero bets, UTG+1 folds.which I doFinal Pot: 8.16 BBResults in white below: Hero has Th Ad (two pair, kings and tens). Outcome: Hero wins 8.16 BB. showoff[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is MP2 with [Ah], [Ad]. 4 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: (6 SB) [6d], [Kc], [4h] (3 players)SB checks, BB bets, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: (5 BB) [9d] (2 players)BB checks, Hero bets, Hero calls.cred, how does the nine help you. easy 3bet, IMORiver: (13 BB) [5c] (2 players)BB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 15 BBResults in white below: BB has 9h 9s (three of a kind, nines). Hero has Ah Ad (one pair, aces). Outcome: BB wins 15 BB. throwing money away on the turn.[quote]Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is MP1 with [Ah], [Jd]. 3 folds, Hero calls.Flop: (7.33 SB) [As], [9d], [Jh] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.I'm looking to pop him on the turn hereTurn: (4.66 BB) [Ks] (2 players)Hero checks, Button checks.damn. I wanted to cr this guy badlyRiver: (4.66 BB) [Qd] (2 players)Hero bets, Button calls.here's a dumb betFinal Pot: 6.66 BBResults in white below: Hero has Ah Jd (two pair, aces and jacks). Button has Qh Qc (three of a kind, queens). Outcome: Button wins 6.66 BB. honestly id raise the flop and lead the turn.