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#1 keith crime

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:08 PM

this is a sick hand

http://www.pokertube.com/ShowMovie.aspx?mo...2a-236ada010d92

if you watch the episode from the beginning you can also see some sick mike matusow luck too

luck scale

Gus Hanson>eric Seidel>mike matusow

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:15 PM

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:22 PM

Gus is one lucky individual - sick hand

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:50 PM

Yeah I've seen that before. Pretty sick

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:50 PM

Not gonna click that...just post the stream here
QUOTE (dscoot @ Friday, April 10th, 2009, 3:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im still not sold that many of these people that get these big online scores are winners when it comes to the live game, which, by the way, is real poker.


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Posted 03 March 2008 - 09:58 PM

QUOTE (chgocubs99 @ Monday, March 3rd, 2008, 9:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not gonna click that...just post the stream here


well played

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:07 PM

I want Gus Luck.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 10:19 PM

I had seen all these episodes before and there is some pretty good action in them. The only problem is the announcers. They won't shut up for a second and its hard to listen to what the players are saying. That is one of the most entertaining parts of any poker show.

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Posted 03 March 2008 - 11:19 PM

I knew straight away it was going to be the 88 vs AQ for runners. Just sick.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 12:37 AM

I dont like those commentators. Queen on the river followed by "WHAT A QUEEN"
3 reasons why you can accept all in withouth see the floop:

1. if i am 200% convinced that i am a lucky guy and i will win

2. if i have the cards in hand that i wish(diferent cases: AA; AK; ... etc)

3. if i have a so called PokerRNG program that can copy the original RNG

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 07:40 AM

QUOTE (keith crime @ Monday, March 3rd, 2008, 9:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
luck scale

Gus Hanson>eric Seidel>mike matusow


The actual (poker) luck scale:

Every human on earth = every other human on earth.


When poker players start realizing this they will be much better off. If you truly believe that Mike Matusow (or anyone) has worse poker luck over the course of their life than someone else, you need to take a statistics course.

I'm sorry if this post makes me sound like an a-hole, but I'm pretty tired of all this "man, I'm so unlucky" garbage I keep hearing.

Here's another secret I'll let you in on: You know why people like Matusow have gained a reputation for being "unlucky"? It's because the rest of the players go along with it in hopes the suckers won't stop playing with them. When Matusow says "man, I just have the worst luck, I've busted 3 times today due to bad luck" in a cash game, what do you think the other guys are going to say "no, you've busted because you are the worst player at the table with little to no discipline". No, they want his money, so the encourage his "victim" mentality.

Anyway, sorry for the rant.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 07:58 AM

QUOTE (kook04 @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 7:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Every human on earth = every other human on earth.[/b]



So not true -- there is natural "luck variance" between individuals across the human population. What you're saying is that, because there is an average height and weight of the human animal, all human animals are the same size.
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Posted 04 March 2008 - 07:59 AM

QUOTE (kook04 @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 7:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The actual (poker) luck scale:

Every human on earth = every other human on earth.


When poker players start realizing this they will be much better off. If you truly believe that Mike Matusow (or anyone) has worse poker luck over the course of their life than someone else, you need to take a statistics course.

I'm sorry if this post makes me sound like an a-hole, but I'm pretty tired of all this "man, I'm so unlucky" garbage I keep hearing.

Here's another secret I'll let you in on: You know why people like Matusow have gained a reputation for being "unlucky"? It's because the rest of the players go along with it in hopes the suckers won't stop playing with them. When Matusow says "man, I just have the worst luck, I've busted 3 times today due to bad luck" in a cash game, what do you think the other guys are going to say "no, you've busted because you are the worst player at the table with little to no discipline". No, they want his money, so the encourage his "victim" mentality.

Anyway, sorry for the rant.




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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:14 AM

QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 7:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So not true -- there is natural "luck variance" between individuals across the human population. What you're saying is that, because there is an average height and weight of the human animal, all human animals are the same size.



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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:17 AM

<------------------ Needs to get lucky



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Posted 04 March 2008 - 08:20 AM

QUOTE (kook04 @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 4:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Every human on earth = every other human on earth.


no.

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:01 AM

QUOTE (kook04 @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 7:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The actual (poker) luck scale:

Every human on earth = every other human on earth.


When poker players start realizing this they will be much better off. If you truly believe that Mike Matusow (or anyone) has worse poker luck over the course of their life than someone else, you need to take a statistics course.

I'm sorry if this post makes me sound like an a-hole, but I'm pretty tired of all this "man, I'm so unlucky" garbage I keep hearing.

Here's another secret I'll let you in on: You know why people like Matusow have gained a reputation for being "unlucky"? It's because the rest of the players go along with it in hopes the suckers won't stop playing with them. When Matusow says "man, I just have the worst luck, I've busted 3 times today due to bad luck" in a cash game, what do you think the other guys are going to say "no, you've busted because you are the worst player at the table with little to no discipline". No, they want his money, so the encourage his "victim" mentality.

Anyway, sorry for the rant.


tell that to someone who drew a bad draft number during the viet nam war

later in the same episode this rich amature is playing like a total tool

he raises pre flop with J4

the flop is something like 2 4 8 with two hearts and he bets 5k

matusow goes all in for 50k with AJh

the tool says - you're unlucky i call

i don't have to tell you how this ends

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:02 AM

QUOTE (keith crime @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 9:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
tell that to someone who drew a bad draft number during the viet nam war



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#19 keith crime

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:18 AM

if you measured luck after say ten years of poker there would likely be a normal distribution with most people being neutral but there would still be tails of really lucky and unlucky players

someone out there has made a ton of money playing slots and it isn't because they are good at it

luck still exists in the long run not for most but at least for 20 %

that doesn't mean you could predict that gus would win a coin toss with matusow but it's quite possible that if mike did a study of all of his all in hands and the number he should have won that god hates him - i'm not saying its so but if gus got hit by a bus tomorrow and natalie portman fell off the bus and onto his johnson i wouldn't be shocked

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:25 AM

QUOTE (keith crime @ Tuesday, March 4th, 2008, 9:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if you measured luck after say ten years of poker there would likely be a normal distribution with most people being neutral but there would still be tails of really lucky and unlucky players

someone out there has made a ton of money playing slots and it isn't because they are good at it

luck still exists in the long run not for most but at least for 20 %

that doesn't mean you could predict that gus would win a coin toss with matusow but it's quite possible that if mike did a study of all of his all in hands and the number he should have won that god hates him - i'm not saying its so but if gus got hit by a bus tomorrow and natalie portman fell off the bus and onto his johnson i wouldn't be shocked



I think that after 10 years of playing poker (fairly regularly.. say, 5 hours a week), the 'luck variance' would be almost exactly the same for everybody. Probably within 0.1% of each other.


Other things that have been mentioned, however, like fighting in wars, job opportunities etc etc, are not just luck based. There are many social luck factors involved in deciding fate.




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