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[Nutcracker]

This hand brought up a few questions on pretty common situations.PokerStars 0.25/0.50 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [Ks], [4s]. UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls.Is it too loose to call here? I doubt UTG will limp raise, so I figure it's about 7:1 Flop: (8.40 SB) [3d], [6s], [7s] (4 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls.Pick up a gutshot draw and king high flush draw. I figure I might as well get as much money in right now, as I'm well more than 33% to win at this point. I think the term is pot equity or some junk. Is this correct reasoning?Turn: (8.70 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.Should I bet betting here?River: (11.70 BB) [5c] (3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, MP1 calls.Final Pot: 14.70 BBEasy bet on end. My temptation to C/r here is just FPS and betting is the best line, right?

[Vade]

Fold preflop. K-x suited is a terribly overrated hand. I'd say that even with 3 others in the pot, it's not really worth it. But let's analyze further.I like your flop 3-bet. Maintains control of the hand, and your opponent clearly isn't that thrilled with his hand.Turn you should be betting again. The 10 doesn't help your opponent most likely.And obviously you got a river card to suckout with

[wrto4556]

NO!! Don't fold preflop. It looks like you have some postflop skills.If there are 3+ people in the pot, I will call a raise from the BB with any two suited. K4s is just like A4s kinda.

[Vade]

wrto4556 said:

NO!! Don't fold preflop. It looks like you have some postflop skills.If there are 3+ people in the pot, I will call a raise from the BB with any two suited. K4s is just like A4s kinda.

I find this funny for some reason

[HtotheNootch]

I have to go with wrto here. Even if I'm not the player he is, I can read SSHE and remember paragraphs here and there. According to the Bible. He absolutely should call multi-way from the BB with K-4 suited or for that matter pretty much any two suited cards.If you dispute this, I refer you to page 262, of SSHE.

[KDawgCometh]

nh sir

[Absolute]

crazies

[Devilkin]

I agree with wrto - multiway pot, you play this hand in the BB. Disregard anyone saying not to play this hand.Dev

[wrto4556]

This hand was played perfect. I shed a tear.

[Roark_8]

wrto4556 said:

This hand was played perfect. I shed a tear.

Really? I say this with humbleness to your knowledge. But there's no argument for leading the flop? Or what about betting the turn? Roark-8

[KDawgCometh]

Roark_8 said:

wrto4556 said:

This hand was played perfect. I shed a tear.

Really? I say this with humbleness to your knowledge. But there's no argument for leading the flop? Or what about betting the turn? Roark-8

you like $$ right. if so the OP played it just fine. He was able to get more people involved CR threebetting,a nd there is no fold equity on his multiditude of draws on the turn. THe river is fine since maybe it will get raised, but he was right to just go out and bet at it to make sure he would get in overcalls

[Absolute]

would you dorks stop jerking off in this thread

[cdddc75]

Absolute said:

would you dorks stop jerking off in this thread

I take it you're still trying to shake the smokes?

[Absolute]

cdddc75 said:

Absolute said:

would you dorks stop jerking off in this thread

I take it you're still trying to shake the smokes?

yessireeunsuccessfully lately

[cdddc75]

Absolute said:

cdddc75 said:

Absolute said:

would you dorks stop jerking off in this thread

I take it you're still trying to shake the smokes?

yessireeunsuccessfully lately

Damn.Keep trying.

[Roark_8]

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you like $$ right. if so the OP played it just fine. He was able to get more people involved CR threebetting,a nd there is no fold equity on his multiditude of draws on the turn. THe river is fine since maybe it will get raised, but he was right to just go out and bet at it to make sure he would get in overcalls

Just so I'm getting this, he had enough pot equity (11 outs) to try and trap for the most bets on the flop, but not enough to be the aggressor on the turn? If this is the case, I agree with you on how it was played. I forgot that there was a PF raise and was scared it would be checked around. But the PF rase changes things. Roark-8

[dms26]

wrto4556 said:

This hand was played perfect. I shed a tear.

Wouldn't you lead the turn with a bet? If I three bet the flop no way I'm checking up front on the turn.Other than that I like the play.

[Nutcracker]

dms26 said:

wrto4556 said:

This hand was played perfect. I shed a tear.

Wouldn't you lead the turn with a bet? If I three bet the flop no way I'm checking up front on the turn.

That was my main question about this hand as well. I think my 3-bet flop may buy me a free card here though (that was my secondary goal by check-3betting the flop), as they'd fear another check/raise. And I don't think pot equity is there to try to get more bets in at this point. Can someone answer this?

[wrto4556]

Why would you bet the turn with K-high?

[dms26]

wrto4556 said:

Why would you bet the turn with K-high?

Point takenHow many outs would you need to bet the turn, he does have a strong draw?