StilettoNole 0 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I have been playing super aggressive, raising a lot of pots. I am running at 22.45% / 20.41% / 4.00 over 49 hands.Villain is the other aggressive player at the table. He is running 16.33% / 10.20% / 4.00 over 49 hands. I haven't seen him get out of line too much. He had $31 of his stack before I sat down, so I haven't seen too much from him since expect for standard stuff.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($24.50)BB ($31.50)Hero ($24.65)MP ($24.45)CO ($61)Button ($36.25)Preflop: Hero is UTG with , . Hero raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85, 2 folds.Flop: ($2.90) , , (3 players)Hero bets $1.75, MP folds, Button raises to $4.25, Hero ...Can we continue here? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Four flush flop? Since when were there 4 cards on the flop?call c-r on hit, c-f on miss Link to post Share on other sites
StilettoNole 0 Posted February 27, 2008 Author Share Posted February 27, 2008 You are the king of beating me on a technicality. "That's actually a 4 bet..." "Its not a four flush on the board..." etc. You know what I am saying!!!! That's like when I say to my students "This is due tomorrow" and they say "We're not going to be here tomorrow" because its Saturday. They know what I mean, I mean the next day we have class, duh! I hate getting beat on a technicality. Anyways, so who agrees with c/r a hit turn and c/f a miss? Link to post Share on other sites
Temporary Nuts 1 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 You are the king of beating me on a technicality.I hope you don't think it's made to make you "look stupid." It's kind of the nature of my job so it's a force of habit. Link to post Share on other sites
Webslinger516 0 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 I follow the same line, (call, then check-raise/fold) mostly because his raise is pretty small. Otherwise I hate playing drawing hands out of position. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 This is why playing suited connectors OOP sucks. This is almost 100% a preflop raise from the cutoff or button for me but very rarely from UTG.This is a call on the flop, I think you are getting the right odds to try and hit your flush on the turn.c/c or c/f the turn depending on what odds he offers you.EDIT: If you miss, c/r if you hit. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I fold. This is AsXs ... either that or we just lost our odds to go fishing anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
breathweapon 0 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 If you know he can lay down top pair, I'd seriously consider re-raising here. The problem with calling is that it doesn't leave you with any good options if you miss the turn, so you need to either shit or get off the pot, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
fakepoo 0 Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Please bring back the creepy stache picture. It makes me want to kick my mom in the face! Link to post Share on other sites
StilettoNole 0 Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 If you know he can lay down top pair, I'd seriously consider re-raising here. The problem with calling is that it doesn't leave you with any good options if you miss the turn, so you need to either shit or get off the pot, IMO.I think this is a very interesting point that I was thinking about before I posted and wanted to see if anyone else thought about a raise. Here's my thinking:1. He could have spades as well and is playing his flush draw for a raise, in which case we are screwed. By raising, it forces him to push all in in which case we can confidently fold.2. He could have A-big and is protecting. Lets say he has Ax-Qs, by raising, it really puts pressure on him, and there is a decent chance he folds giving my UTG raise credit. 3. By just calling, we get put in a very strange spot if we brick the turn. Which is what happened. The turn brought the 7 of hearts (giving me 5 more outs, if he only has one pair). Now the pot is $11 or so and he bets $5 when I check to him. Now what?I think a raise on the flop would have made this hand easier to play. Your thoughts?Also, I agree, this is the problem playing s00ted connectors from EP. Probably could have avoiding this all together by mucking pre. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 By just calling, we get put in a very strange spot if we brick the turn. Which is what happened. The turn brought the 7 of hearts (giving me 5 more outs, if he only has one pair). Now the pot is $11 or so and he bets $5 when I check to him. Now what?Call the $5. Don't go crazy on any river. Fold to the flop raise next time. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I fold. This is AsXs ... either that or we just lost our odds to go fishing anyway.huh?????We're getting 3.56 to 1 to see the next card. That's close enough that we need to call here, and reevaluate on the turn based on the odds we're getting.This is like a million different hands for every time it's exactly AsXs. Link to post Share on other sites
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