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[PrtyPSux]

I'm SB with KKPRE-FLOPMp2 calls, Mp3 raises, I 3 bet, Mp2 calls, Mp3 calls.FLOP [board cards 5H,JC,6H ]I check, MP2 bets, Mp3 calls, I raise, Mp2 3bets, Mp3 calls, I cap, both call. (10.5 BB)I check raise thinking someone must have caught sumthing then it gets capped, Should I be protecting my hand more by betting out in the future? TURN [board cards 5H,JC,6H,10C ]I bet, Mp2 calls, Mp3 calls $2. (13.5 BB) this is correct right?...I think..RIVER [board cards 5H,JC,6H,10C,AC ]takemycash9 checks, bmb013 checks, knovicoff checks. I check planning to check/call an AJ or sumthing, gets checked around I take it down...how many leaks were there in this one guys??...Thanks. [/b]

[dms26]

ugg what an ugly river card.Depending on how perceptive your competition is 3 betting preflop then checking on the flop could give away that you have a big hand(or that you missed with AK). I'd bet the flop unless you have a good read that someone will bet it, then a check/raise is fine. I'd lead out on the turn too, especially with 2 flush draws on the board now.The river is just terrible, completing the backdoor flush and the overcard to your Kings. I'd probably go into check/call mode too, maybe that's a weak play but I don't see many people calling unless they have you beaten.

[custom36]

Bet the flop then call when you get raised. Bet out the turn. If you're raised, 3bet it. I don't know what to do on the river, but I'd probably bet out.

[wrto4556]

This line should go bet/bet/bet.

[MrNiceGuy]

PrtyPSux said:

FLOP [board cards 5H,JC,6H ]I check, MP2 bets, Mp3 calls, I raise, Mp2 3bets, Mp3 calls, I cap, both call. (10.5 BB)I check raise thinking someone must have caught sumthing then it gets capped, Should I be protecting my hand more by betting out in the future?

Worked out for you in this case getting the chance to cap later, but why did you think "someone must have caught sumthing" with only two opponents? I think you have to bet out on this flop - looks like MP2 in this case probably caught a jack, fortunately for you (he held QJ or J9 maybe?).I think you should bet the river,too - he open-limped, so while he could have AJ, I'd say it's doubtful. Had the river been a heart, I think check-calling would be ok.

[obs]

You should be value betting that river.

[PrtyPSux]

wrto4556 said:

This line should go bet/bet/bet.

obs said:

You should be value betting that river.

really? you guys think I'll be good often enough w/ a river like that? backdoor, flush, str8, and a possible overcard..

[wrto4556]

See, the reason you bet that is because if you check, only a hand that beats you will bet and all the hands you beat will check behind. So you give a bet away when you are behind, but miss a bet when you are ahead. By betting you get those value bets from QQ and JJ or whatever even when you pay of an ace.

[PrtyPSux]

wrto4556 said:

See, the reason you bet that is because if you check, only a hand that beats you will bet and all the hands you beat will check behind. So you give a bet away when you are behind, but miss a bet when you are ahead. By betting you get those value bets from QQ and JJ or whatever even when you pay of an ace.

ooooohh...good point ,.thanks.Is there any situation where I should check?

[wrto4556]

3 handed, you have KK and the final baord isA K J T 4 Good time to check/call because you are getting raised ALOT.

[PrtyPSux]

wrto4556 said:

3 handed, you have KK and the final baord isA K J T 4 Good time to check/call because you are getting raised ALOT.

wow, in other words, almost never check...thats pretty fu.cking agressive, but I like it.

[wrto4556]

Yeah, I once read something by a well respected poster that said:"Everytime I see a post that starts out: 'should I bet this river', the answer is usually 'yes'."

[PrtyPSux]

wrto4556 said:

Yeah, I once read something by a well respected poster that said:"Everytime I see a post that starts out: 'should I bet this river', the answer is usually 'yes'."

yea Ive been betting out the river in situations were I wouldnt be betting for this session....you should see what theyre calling me with..I didnt think I was missing out on much...