StilettoNole 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I had a rough weekend for poker. Some suckouts, some coolers, some bad play. This leads to worse play by me. What are you thoughts here?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($25.25)BB ($10)UTG ($25)MP ($26.15)Hero ($41)Button ($22.25)Preflop: Hero is CO with , . 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.9, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.95.Flop: ($5.95) , , (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4.Turn: ($13.95) (2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: ($13.95) (2 players)SB bets $13.85, Hero...1. Is this an easy fold pre-flop? Are we ever calling a reraise in pos?2. Flop play OK?3. Turn check OK? No draws there, so why bloat the pot?4. River... lost.Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Andromeda 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 6 handed in the CO with 2 face cards - I am probably playing them and calling like you did. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Open raise is fine.Fold preflop to the reraise every single time. Every time. Twice on Sundays.TBH I probably check behind on the flop and get myself into a really weird mess on the turn and river, but that's just me. I think your bet is fine.I think bet/folding the turn and checking behind on the river is better than checking the turn and calling the river. Link to post Share on other sites
nomad_monad 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 assuming standard read on SB i fold KJo there. it's a crappy crappy crappy hand. i'd rather call the 3bet with 45s.bet about 2/3 on turn and check behind river, rather than checking behind turn and calling river. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Fold preflop every single time. EVERY SINGLE TIME.The flop is ok. I bet the turn. If he wants to c/r me, then that's fine, but I'm gonna put my last chips into the pot at this point.Fold river as played. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I had a rough weekend for poker. Some ...bad play. Preflop: Hero is CO with , . 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB raises to $2.9, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.95. It's kinda all right there ... Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 It's kinda all right there ...No, it's really not. Unless you have a strong read to compel you to call preflop, this is as standard as folding QJo UTG in a full ring game. Link to post Share on other sites
sactownjoey 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 No, it's really not. Unless you have a strong read to compel you to call preflop, this is as standard as folding QJo UTG in a full ring game.I think that is what he meant...the problem is in the call of the pfr.I looked at your blog, stiletto. I don't play much 6-max but a lot of the problem hands you posted seemed to all stem from pre-flop aggression morphing into clinging to a pair with a weak kicker or multi-barreling bluffs into raised pots. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I think that is what he meant...the problem is in the call of the pfr.You're right. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Stiletto, post your PT stats. It could really point out some leaks. Link to post Share on other sites
vervius 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 New RuleWhen posting a hero call with 72 you must include your complete poker tracker results for that hand.i hate k-j. so you should too. don't play it, specially not with a nice sized reraise. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Raise preflop is ok from the cutoff, but fold to the reraise. Calling gets you into situations like these where you don't know where you are in the hand more often then not.I don't think he is betting anything less than a pair of kings on the river and probably does not have a worse king than you. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Fold preflop every single time. EVERY SINGLE TIME.The flop is ok. I bet the turn. If he wants to c/r me, then that's fine, but I'm gonna put my last chips into the pot at this point.Fold river as played. It's kinda all right there ...Yup. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I think that is what he meant...the problem is in the call of the pfr. I looked at your blog, stiletto. I don't play much 6-max but a lot of the problem hands you posted seemed to all stem from pre-flop aggression morphing into clinging to a pair with a weak kicker or multi-barreling bluffs into raised pots. Yup. I was at a conference yesterday and starting posting in the afternoon to stay awake, then the battery on my laptop gave out and I was too lazy to go plug it in. But yeah, the problem is ALL right there in the PF call. I have a list of hands that it's OK to raise with but not call raises with. It's a long list. Link to post Share on other sites
ah2388 0 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 pf call is badI like checking behind this flop then betting the turn if checked toIf were not already behind, there is very few cards that come on the turn that change our equity in the hand much Link to post Share on other sites
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