Don't Mess With Texas

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I don't have the link because my brother sent me this. So I might have made it up.Taken from a forum I was reading today:DECEMBER 30, 2007 - NEW YORK CITY, NY. Visitor's to New York City'sTimes Square witnessed a horrifying scene early this morning near TGIFriday's on the square. Russell Melvin of Austin, Texas, in town forthe New Year's Eve celebration, disarmed and killed a violent careercriminal attempting to rob a small group of tourists at gunpoint. Thedeceased was identified as Miguel Alonzo Aguila of Medellin,Columbia.Melvin, speaking fluent Spanish, conversed briefly with the man aftersurrendering his wallet and other valuables. Witnesses say the gunmanbecame extremely irritated and was acting irrationally when he lurchedforward, grabbing Melvin's date, registered nurse Anna MichellePascal, also of Austin, Texas.Witnesses say Melvin moved with blinding speed as he disarmedAguila. In the process, Melvin delivered a crushing blow to theAguila's trachea, crushing it. Additionally, during the takedown,Aguila's right arm was horribly dislocated at the shoulder.Witness Carlton Whitfield, an Air Force ROTC cadet at RutgersUniversity, described the scene as bizarre. "We were all scared forour lives. The guy appeared to be totally high on cocaine oralcohol. I was sure he was going to kill that woman. When that guytook him down, it happened so fast, it was like it was choreographedor something. The sound of that guy's shoulder being ripped from thesocket literally made several of us vomit. It was the most bizarrething I've ever seen but I'm grateful that guy was there to protectus."Anthony Bandini, a community college instructor from Boston, describedthe aftermath as equally chilling. "As that guy laid theresuffocating, Melvin's date was attempting to resuscitate him. Melvinordered us to call 911 then knelt alongside him and said a Catholicprayer for the dying. When the guy died, Melvin field stripped theweapon and put the firing pin in his pocket. He gave it to policewhen they arrived a few minutes later."Police arrived approximately three minutes after the call for help.NYPD watch supervisor Sgt. William Hamer indicated Aguila was foundface down with his right arm was draped across his upper back.Augila's weapon was disassembled and resting on the small of his back."It was a very disturbing sight, " said Hamer. "I've seen a lot ofthings on this job, but this is up there with the strangest amongthem."Police report over a dozen of witnesses were questioned at the scene.Melvin and Pascal were transported to the local substation where theygave extensive written statements. After investigators reviewedseveral Times Square security cameras, both Texans were releasedwithout restrictions.A copy of the police report indicates Melvin is a Major in the UnitedStates Air Force Reserves and a decorated Gulf War veteran. He is thePresident and Chief Executive Officer of a defense consulting companywhich provides tactical aerial reconnaissance to the United StatesDepartment of Defense and other military organizations. In the early90's, Melvin spent three years on a deep insertion assignment in theformer Soviet Union.When questioned by media upon his release, Melvin dismissed theaffair. "A bad guy left his house today looking for some booze andmoney. I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. Aguila was a careercriminal. If he had been kept in confinement, he'd be alive today. Imade every effort to reason with him but, ultimately, the enemy gets avote on how things turn out. He voted wrong today. I'm sorry for hisfamily and those that loved him. We should all say a prayer for himand his family."

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"Don't Mess With Texas" has nothing to do with the people of Texas.It's the fire ants. Seriously, they're everywhere. Don't mess with them.

[runthemover 39]

He voted wrong today.

insert clever balloon guy comment

[ShakeZuma 585]

that was awesome

[JoeyJoJo 18]

In the process, Melvin delivered a crushing blow to Aguila's trachea, crushing it. Additionally, during the takedown, Aguila's right arm was horribly dislocated at the shoulder.The sound of that guy's shoulder being ripped from the socket literally made several of us vomit.NYPD watch supervisor Sgt. William Hamer indicated Aguila was found face down with his right arm draped across his upper back.Augila's weapon was disassembled and resting on the small of his back.

Jebus.

[Suited_Up 2]

Niiiice!

[gatortom64 1]

TY Sir. Well done.

[Fphillips 0]

This made my day. I'd like to hear more of this kind of stuff on the news.

[speedz99 145]

Great story.

[DoinSublime 0]

Don't Mess With Texas, Part IITeen Accused of Giving Cops LSD CookiesLAKE WORTH, Texas (July 8) - A teenager is suspected of delivering baskets of drug-laced treats to about a dozen police departments in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, according to police who charged him Tuesday with LSD possession. At least three officers have gotten sick.Christian Phillips, 18, was charged with possession of LSD, but police said the charge may change following an investigation.The 18-year-old man was arrested after taking cookies to the Lake Worth police station, said Brett McGuire, the suburb's police chief. Officers there had been tipped off that someone was falsely claiming to deliver treats on behalf of Mothers Against Drunk Driving."Our officers took a good whiff and thought they smelled like marijuana," McGuire said, adding that preliminary tests instead detected traces of LSD.Christian Phillips was taken into custody and later charged with possession of the powerful hallucinogen, although the charge may be changed, McGuire said.The suspect denied trying to contaminate the goodies or harm anyone and said one of his friends might have been smoking pot while Phillips was baking, McGuire said. The suspect is not affiliated with MADD, the chief said.Phillips remained jailed in Lake Worth pending an arraignment Wednesday. Bail had not been set, and he did not have an attorney yet, McGuire said.In Fort Worth, at least three officers got sick after eating some cookies and candy from a basket delivered to that police station Monday night, authorities said.Police there are conducting tests and plan to file charges if LSD or another drug or chemical is found in the food, said Lt. Paul Henderson.Lake Worth investigators found that Phillips had a list of about two dozen police departments in north Texas, with 13 checked off, McGuire said. It's unclear whether anyone else got sick because some deliveries were made in the past week.Police in Blue Mound found traces of marijuana in the treats, he said. Blue Mound police tipped off Lake Worth after receiving a call from MADD that no one was delivering cookies on its behalf.

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Don't Mess With Texas, Part IIIBy JUAN A. LOZANO, Associated Press Writer Mon Jun 30, 3:30 PM ET HOUSTON - A Texas man who shot and killed two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home cleared in the shootings Monday by a grand jury. ADVERTISEMENT Joe Horn, 61, shot the two men in November after he saw them crawling out the windows of a neighbor's house in the Houston suburb of Pasadena.Horn called 911 and told the dispatcher he had a shotgun and was going to kill the men. The dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside, but Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun and shot both in the back."The message we're trying to send today is the criminal justice system works," Harris County District Attorney Kenneth Magidson said.Horn's attorney, Tom Lambright, has said his client believed the two men had broken into his neighbor's home and that he shot them only when they came into his yard and threatened him.The suspected burglars, Hernando Riascos Torres, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, were unemployed illegal immigrants from Colombia. Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction.The episode touched off protests from civil rights activists who said the shooting was racially motivated and that Horn took the law into his own hands. Horn's supporters defended his actions, saying he was protecting himself and being a good neighbor to a homeowner who was out of town."I understand the concerns of some in the community regarding Mr. Horn's conduct," Magidson said. "The use of deadly force is carefully limited in Texas law to certain circumstances ... In this case, however, the grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn's use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense."Lambright did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment from The Associated Press.Texas law allows people to use deadly force to protect themselves if it is reasonable to believe they are in mortal danger. In limited circumstances, people also can use deadly force to protect a neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.It's not clear whether the neighbor whose home was burglarized asked Horn to watch over his house.

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Don't Mess With Texas, Part IIIBy JUAN A. LOZANO, Associated Press Writer Mon Jun 30, 3:30 PM ET HOUSTON - A Texas man who shot and killed two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home cleared in the shootings Monday by a grand jury. ADVERTISEMENT Joe Horn, 61, shot the two men in November after he saw them crawling out the windows of a neighbor's house in the Houston suburb of Pasadena.Horn called 911 and told the dispatcher he had a shotgun and was going to kill the men. The dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside, but Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun and shot both in the back."The message we're trying to send today is the criminal justice system works," Harris County District Attorney Kenneth Magidson said.Horn's attorney, Tom Lambright, has said his client believed the two men had broken into his neighbor's home and that he shot them only when they came into his yard and threatened him.The suspected burglars, Hernando Riascos Torres, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, were unemployed illegal immigrants from Colombia. Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction.The episode touched off protests from civil rights activists who said the shooting was racially motivated and that Horn took the law into his own hands. Horn's supporters defended his actions, saying he was protecting himself and being a good neighbor to a homeowner who was out of town."I understand the concerns of some in the community regarding Mr. Horn's conduct," Magidson said. "The use of deadly force is carefully limited in Texas law to certain circumstances ... In this case, however, the grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn's use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense."Lambright did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment from The Associated Press.Texas law allows people to use deadly force to protect themselves if it is reasonable to believe they are in mortal danger. In limited circumstances, people also can use deadly force to protect a neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.It's not clear whether the neighbor whose home was burglarized asked Horn to watch over his house.

Stories like this make me give thanks every day that I live in Canada.

[Poppy_Hillis 11]

So when does he get a seven year prison sentence for killing a man, because he was trained by the gov't to be a deadly weapon. Somewhere Cameron Poe is very upset right now.

[chrozzo 19]

that was awesome

[El Guapo 8]

Stories like this make me give thanks every day that I live in Canada.

So your saying your neighbor won't commit multiple homicide to protect your property? That's gay.

[HollywoodAFD 0]

Awesome story... I could care less if it was true or not... I'm gonna think about it all day! lmao(removed the firing pin? lmao)Favorite line "ultimately, the enemy gets avote on how things turn out. He voted wrong today. "Chuck Norris couldn't come up with something that priceless.lmao

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Don't Mess With Texas IV

[Kaveros 0]

Holy shit that is amazing. I was impressed by the breaking of the guys trachea butwhen he said a catholic prayer I was in awe. This guy is the new Bruce Willis.

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Don't Mess With Texas, Part IIIBy JUAN A. LOZANO, Associated Press Writer Mon Jun 30, 3:30 PM ET HOUSTON - A Texas man who shot and killed two men he suspected of burglarizing his neighbor's home cleared in the shootings Monday by a grand jury. ADVERTISEMENT Joe Horn, 61, shot the two men in November after he saw them crawling out the windows of a neighbor's house in the Houston suburb of Pasadena.Horn called 911 and told the dispatcher he had a shotgun and was going to kill the men. The dispatcher pleaded with him not to go outside, but Horn confronted the men with a 12-gauge shotgun and shot both in the back."The message we're trying to send today is the criminal justice system works," Harris County District Attorney Kenneth Magidson said.Horn's attorney, Tom Lambright, has said his client believed the two men had broken into his neighbor's home and that he shot them only when they came into his yard and threatened him.The suspected burglars, Hernando Riascos Torres, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30, were unemployed illegal immigrants from Colombia. Torres was deported to Colombia in 1999 after a 1994 cocaine-related conviction.The episode touched off protests from civil rights activists who said the shooting was racially motivated and that Horn took the law into his own hands. Horn's supporters defended his actions, saying he was protecting himself and being a good neighbor to a homeowner who was out of town."I understand the concerns of some in the community regarding Mr. Horn's conduct," Magidson said. "The use of deadly force is carefully limited in Texas law to certain circumstances ... In this case, however, the grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn's use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense."Lambright did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment from The Associated Press.Texas law allows people to use deadly force to protect themselves if it is reasonable to believe they are in mortal danger. In limited circumstances, people also can use deadly force to protect a neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.It's not clear whether the neighbor whose home was burglarized asked Horn to watch over his house.

Texas is MESSED up.

[AmScray 354]

When the guy died, Melvin field stripped theweapon and put the firing pin in his pocket. He gave it to policewhen they arrived a few minutes later."

Racking my brain to think of a gun that has a firing pin that's "removable" on a field strip without using tools and going into an actual detail strip... Has this been Snopes'ed?

[HollywoodAFD 0]

Racking my brain to think of a gun that has a firing pin that's "removable" on a field strip without using tools and going into an actual detail strip... Has this been Snopes'ed?

That's what made the story a bit hokie (not the only part) but it's still a good story.You can't remove a firing pin in a field strip. Either they meant "slide" or whoever created the story didn't think it all the way through.Who cares... it was a great story and I'm gonna pretend it's real no matter what.I hate criminals.

[ricardob 0]

In limited circumstances, people also can use deadly force to protect a neighbor's property; for example, if a homeowner asks a neighbor to watch over his property while he's out of town.

This seems very wrong to me. Property over people?

[DoinSublime 0]

This seems very wrong to me. Property over people?

They were climbing out a window in the middle of the night. They were in this country illegally. They were convicts. Its not property over people, its defending yourself from the boorish behavior of someone whose intent is to do you wrong.

Crime is not only a complete disavowal of the social contract, but also a commandeering of the victim's person and liberty. If the individual's dignity lies in the fact that he is a moral agent engaging in actions of his own will, in free exchange with others, then crime always violates the victim's dignity. It is, in fact, an act of enslavement. Your wallet, your purse, or your car may not be worth your life, but your dignity is; and if it is not worth fighting for, it can hardly be said to exist.

read this, and see if it you take away anything from it. then we can devolve into another gun thread.http://rkba.org/comment/cowards.htmledit - let me put this specific situation another way. If I was down in Columbia, in the country illegally, and was out after I was convicted of selling drugs there, and then I was shot dead as I was climbing out someones window after robbing their house....how many people here would feel bad for me?

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edit - let me put this specific situation another way. If I was down in Columbia, in the country illegally, and was out after I was convicted of selling drugs there, and then I was shot dead as I was climbing out someones window after robbing their house....how many people here would feel bad for me?

This is probably a difference in cultural setting more than anything and I hope you don't take offense on my opinion:I wouldn't feel bad for you if you were sent to jail for a few years, but when you're killed by a wannabe hero, I'm not sure if I wouldn't consider the criminal turning into the victim.We can talk about police brutality, but a man that leaves his house with the intent of shooting(not trying to keeping them in place until the police comes-but SHOOT them) is more a killer than someone looking for justice.In the case given the man was under no danger, there was noone in danger. The cops could easily get them(since they arrived 1 minute after they were shot by justice man.And someone being illegally in a country doesn't turn people into animals that can be killed without a second tought.But...I don't live in a country where just about anyone can carry a gun, so I'm not sure about how dangerous it is to try and stop criminals without shooting first.

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This is probably a difference in cultural setting more than anything and I hope you don't take offense on my opinion:I wouldn't feel bad for you if you were sent to jail for a few years, but when you're killed by a wannabe hero, I'm not sure if I wouldn't consider the criminal turning into the victim.We can talk about police brutality, but a man that leaves his house with the intent of shooting(not trying to keeping them in place until the police comes-but SHOOT them) is more a killer than someone looking for justice.In the case given the man was under no danger, there was noone in danger. The cops could easily get them(since they arrived 1 minute after they were shot by justice man.And someone being illegally in a country doesn't turn people into animals that can be killed without a second tought.But...I don't live in a country where just about anyone can carry a gun, so I'm not sure about how dangerous it is to try and stop criminals without shooting first.

I don't take offense, I was actually thinking the same hoping you wouldn't think I was talking sharp at you. :)I hear what your saying, and them being from another country shouldn't matter, but the truth is....they were criminals in the act of committing a crime in a country they weren't allowed to be in. Honestly, who knows if he said stop and they didn't, but they had already made their choice to put themselves in that situation and I don't blame the guy one bit for shooting them considering they could easily have turned around and shot him. They were in the act of a robbery, and someone was about to stop it. It's a safe assumption, that they aren't exactly just going to roll over when they outnumber hero.But about this country allowing citizens to carry guns, seriously, read that link I posted, it should give you some perspective. It isn't just about protecting yourself, its protecting yourself from the government as a citizenry.