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#1 HtotheNootch

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 12:03 PM

I folded after the flop, so there's no need for a hand history.I just sat down at a party table and post a blind from one off the button. Two other players who had just sat down also posted. I'm dealt Kd-10d. Everyone on there way to me calls. I check (wondering about a raise here). Button Raises and SB re-raises. BB calls. All the limpers call when it comes to me. Now since it looks like the pots going to be played 9 ways, I figure I have to call. Obviously, I'm probably up against some decent hands, but while K-10s is far from a monster, it can also develop into something nice if I hit the flop, and the pot is huge. So I call. Button re-raises. Obviously w/ 3 SBs already in, and35 in the pot, I'm calling.So what play do some people who know better than I around here like?Fold PFCallRaiseBTW, flop came down 6s, 6c, 3c. So I got out.The winner was the guy who played 4-5 of clubs from UTG+1. Sometimes you've just got to love Party!

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 12:25 PM

I fold even though you are getting decent pot odds. Calling one more bet would be fine but I don't like calling 2 there. Another thing I like to do is not post until the BB, you can watch a round and get a feel for the table.
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i tried to talk here about that program, the RNG , not to talk about when to accept all in without to see flop.
You can accept all in whenever you want, or whenever you feel lucky, but in virtual room's is not like in reality. In reality anything is possible... in virtual rooms you can be "the one" who knows the future, or who can change the future.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 02:58 PM

I call initially, but fold when it comes back and would have to call 2 more bets.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 03:09 PM

I'd call teh threebet. YOur implied ods on hitting a striaght or second nut flush are just way too high with this action. It'd be a reluctent call, but I'd call. It's not the immeadite odds(which would still work kind of in your favor), but the insane implied odds. If you hit a good draw you will take down a ginormous pot vs teh times you call all threebets and fold the flop. You will end up ahead just for the times you hit the flop hard
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Posted 03 May 2005 - 03:14 PM

KDawgCometh said:

I'd call teh threebet. YOur implied ods on hitting a striaght or second nut flush are just way too high with this action. It'd be a reluctent call, but I'd call. It's not the immeadite odds(which would still work kind of in your favor), but the insane implied odds. If you hit a good draw you will take down a ginormous pot vs teh times you call all threebets and fold the flop. You will end up ahead just for the times you hit the flop hard
hmmm. noted. If you miss the flop, then fold as the OP did is correct, right?

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 08:18 PM

My thinking exactly matched KDAWG's here. I hope that's a good sign for my play. In fact the only thing I regret was not capping it, since I was sure that someone, somewhere along the line would have, and then obviously I would have been obligated to call.I like my play pre-flop.That said, short of flopping a monster, I don't hate the flop that came. I got out cheap when a lot of people got dinged up pretty hard.I LOVE (although I think if you're 1/4 of a player it was easy) my fold on the flop.

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 08:22 PM

rivercardbandit said:

KDawgCometh said:

I'd call teh threebet. YOur implied ods on hitting a striaght or second nut flush are just way too high with this action. It'd be a reluctent call, but I'd call. It's not the immeadite odds(which would still work kind of in your favor), but the insane implied odds. If you hit a good draw you will take down a ginormous pot vs teh times you call all threebets and fold the flop. You will end up ahead just for the times you hit the flop hard
hmmm. noted. If you miss the flop, then fold as the OP did is correct, right?
yes, but the key to calling this threebet is the factr that it is shaping up to be a masive pot, that's the only reason. If you have 5 to 6 people going to the fliop calling a threebet then it works. I'm not saying that it would work with four seeing the floip, its purely situational. I'm also not advocating calling three cold, you're calling two cold having already put in one bet
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:47 AM

I like posting the first blind when the BB hits me. I try not to post an un-forced blind. Some say this strategy is ultra-stingy. I'm just not into putting dead money into someone else's nice hand unless I have to (BB or SB).




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