StilettoNole 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 What is your range for calling a stupid push by a short stacker pre-flop? I had seen this guy push A-4 off, 2-2, Q-Js, and 10-7 off before. He is your classic buy in for short-only-pushing-trying-to-double-up-hit-and-run-piece-of-sh*t.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($24.10)BB ($30.85)UTG ($6.50)MP ($25.35)CO ($29.20)Hero ($25.50)Preflop: Hero is Button with , . UTG raises to $6.5 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero...Also, if we are going for it here, should we be raising to isolate or just calling?Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 On the button I'm calling with 8s+ vs a short stacker push @ 25NL. I don't raise all-in because I'm not thrilled about getting 9s in preflop for full stacks when anyone who would raise a flat call beats 9s. I do the same with Aces. Link to post Share on other sites
sactownjoey 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Meh. What's the math on this one? His range seems to be infinite but is the payoff worth the likely coin flip? Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Meh. What's the math on this one? His range seems to be infinite but is the payoff worth the likely coin flip?If you think villain is shoving a range you're more likely to beat than lose to, then you call because it's +EV. AA and KK are also less likely to open shove from utg. These villains are usually awful and shoving any pair, AJ+, KQ, and on a sliding scale of how bad he is, lots of weird garbage hands. Based on what I've seen these guys show up with @ 25NL I think 8s+ and AQs, AK+ are calls.Today I've seen these guys show up with Kings, 2s, Q10off, and Q3suited. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I had seen this guy push A-4 off, 2-2, Q-Js, and 10-7 off before.And you're asking if you should call with 99? WTF.Yes, you get 2 "WTF" responses from me today Link to post Share on other sites
StilettoNole 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 And you're asking if you should call with 99? WTF.Yes, you get 2 "WTF" responses from me today Yeah, I know. Just making sure everyone calls here. He woke up with jacks this time... no being results based, I just wanted to make sure that every calls here. Depending on villain and what I've seen him do before, I am calling 88+, A-Q+I was just checking that everyone else felt that way. Link to post Share on other sites
drcossack 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 What is your range for calling a stupid push by a short stacker pre-flop? I had seen this guy push A-4 off, 2-2, Q-Js, and 10-7 off before. He is your classic buy in for short-only-pushing-trying-to-double-up-hit-and-run-piece-of-sh*t.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)SB ($24.10)BB ($30.85)UTG ($6.50)MP ($25.35)CO ($29.20)Hero ($25.50)Preflop: Hero is Button with , . UTG raises to $6.5 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero...Also, if we are going for it here, should we be raising to isolate or just calling?Thanks. And you're asking if you should call with 99? WTF.Yes, you get 2 "WTF" responses from me today lol.This can be described with the following: Imcallingsofastyoumightaswellcastmeforthexorcistbecauseyourheadisgoingtobespinning. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Imcallingsofastyoumightaswellcastmeforthexorcistbecauseyourheadisgoingtobespinning.-8 Link to post Share on other sites
drcossack 0 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 -8WecantallbeasgoodasyouwhentypingwithnospacingbetweenwordsBesides, that was the best analogy I could think of. Link to post Share on other sites
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