Daniel In The Poker Hall Of Fame?

[Lynbrook 0]

We all know how much Daniel loves #'s and stats. I have no idea how the current Poker HOF works but this is how I would like to see it work.Have a cash and a tournament section. For tournament induction, you have to win at least 5 majors. A WSOP, WPT, or any other major tourny that I dont know of. You need to be on the poker scene for at least 10 years. Since tournament wins and losses can be tracked (and should be from now on) you need to be up over a million dollars (from tournies...money earned minus buy-ins) at time of induction. And though I'm not big onto the moral stuff for any HOF, you shouldn't be a rapist or murderer. You probably at some point should be a drunk though. Just kidding.For cash games, thats tougher. Like who can prove who wins and loses. And if the same people play the Big Game, do they all win every year?? I know other people play periodically but I find it hard to believe that Chip, Barry, Doyle, Ivey and Todd Brunson all came away winners every year playing against each other. So I wont even take a stab at that. But what do you guys think for tournies...and do you think if Daniel retired today, he should be inducted?

[fighter 4]

Well there are currently two HOF's. If he stopped tomorrow he would probably make the WPT "walk of fame" however I dont know if he would make the WSOP hall of fame. Would 3 WSOP titles and a POY gong be enough when 27 people have more titles and 16 of them are not in the hall ( give or take).

[fighter 4]

Well there are currently two HOF's. If he stopped tomorrow he would probably make the WPT "walk of fame" however I dont know if he would make the WSOP hall of fame. Would 3 WSOP titles and a POY gong be enough when 27 people have more titles and 16 of them are not in the hall ( give or take).

Hall of Fame StandardsSelection Criteria for the Hall of Fame is straightforward and the standards are high: * A gambler must have played poker against acknowledged top competition, * Played for high stakes, * Played consistently well, gained the respect of peers, * And stood the test of time. Maybe he is a better chance then I imagined looking at the criteria

[Lynbrook 0]

Hall of Fame StandardsSelection Criteria for the Hall of Fame is straightforward and the standards are high: * A gambler must have played poker against acknowledged top competition, * Played for high stakes, * Played consistently well, gained the respect of peers, * And stood the test of time. Maybe he is a better chance then I imagined looking at the criteria

Under those criterias I definitely do not think he belongs in it. He hasn't stood the test of time. I think he would need at least another 10 years of poker excellence. But thats my problem with those criterias. I dont think those are definitive enough. They're too liberal and you can get in if you're likable.That's why for a tournament section of the HOF, I think there should have to be standards met, like they have in golf. Under my version, someone like Stu Unger who came and left quickly could get in because he was dominant if only for a 10 year period (I have no idea how long he was dominant but just saying).Sort of why I think Albert Belle belongs in the baseball HOF.

[nutzbuster 7]

lol.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

I'll be in that eventually, but it's not a big deal to me at all. The criteria has changed now and there are people in it now that shouldn't be based on the criteria.

[NaturalNine 0]

At this very moment of course not. Less internet/promoting, more high stakes live cash games/bracelets/WPT titles.

[DanielNegreanu 141]

At this very moment of course not. Less internet/promoting, more high stakes live cash games/bracelets/WPT titles.

Based on the criteria, if you include all of it, I'm more qualified than some of the inductees that are in there now. Frankly, I think the process is a little goofy and the Hall itself is meaningless.

[Oziumrules 0]

Its not "IF" Daniel gets elected to the Poker Hall of Fame its "WHEN". No rush.....plenty of time.

[NickZepp 0]

Daniel will get elected. I just hope that we never see the day were a Jamie Gold gets elected.

[Lynbrook 0]

Based on the criteria, if you include all of it, I'm more qualified than some of the inductees that are in there now. Frankly, I think the process is a little goofy and the Hall itself is meaningless.

I'm sorta with you on this. I think any HOF is meaningless and goofy in a way. Your peers aren't voting you in, some sportswriters are that may have seen you play four times a year. But its still fun to talk about.But which poker players are in that you dont think meet the criteria?And do you think if they made improvements it wouldn't be meaningless?

[DanielNegreanu 141]

I'm sorta with you on this. I think any HOF is meaningless and goofy in a way. Your peers aren't voting you in, some sportswriters are that may have seen you play four times a year. But its still fun to talk about.But which poker players are in that you dont think meet the criteria?And do you think if they made improvements it wouldn't be meaningless?

One of the criteria was to play high stakes cash games. I've done that for 10 years. Not everyone on that list ever really played high stakes poker.

[CBrownOSU04 0]

One of the criteria was to play high stakes cash games. I've done that for 10 years. Not everyone on that list ever really played high stakes poker.

if you are referring to phil hellmuth he apparently has "crushed" the big game for 5 years whenever he "chose" to play..haha

[CBrownOSU04 0]

also...how the hell is berry johnston in the hall of fame? really....really?

[NickZepp 0]

also...how the hell is berry johnston in the hall of fame? really....really?

Lets see champ in 1986, 5 bracelets, which is more than Daniel, Chip Reese, Huck Seed, Amarillo Slim, Scotty Nguyen, among others, won about 3 million $. I think he's 3rd all time in cashes in the WSOP. He's a great poker player.

[CBrownOSU04 0]

have you read this thread at all? daniel CLEARLY stated that one of the requirements is that you must play in the highest levels of cash games...yea berry does that...NOPE

[NickZepp 0]

have you read this thread at all? daniel CLEARLY stated that one of the requirements is that you must play in the highest levels of cash games...yea berry does that...NOPE

I have no idea about his cash game history. But just because you don't see him on the cash game shows doesn't mean he doesn't play cash games also.

[freak2304 0]

Here's my take on the poker HOF. It doesn't really seem fair to make the requirements "Won X in tournaments w/ X bracelts AND played in high stakes cash games". If you look at other HOF's, like I'll use the baseball HOF, they don't do this. No one thought of leaving Sandy Koufax out of the HOF because he had a batting average of .097. People can be great at what they do, still, if they specialize in a certain aspect of their sport/game.

[NickZepp 0]

Here's my take on the poker HOF. It doesn't really seem fair to make the requirements "Won X in tournaments w/ X bracelts AND played in high stakes cash games". If you look at other HOF's, like I'll use the baseball HOF, they don't do this. No one thought of leaving Sandy Koufax out of the HOF because he had a batting average of .097. People can be great at what they do, still, if they specialize in a certain aspect of their sport/game.

I agree with that also. I think poker HOFrs should be about respect over time the most. And Berry Johnston is one of the most respected players. Look at his overall body of work. He's done real well. Another little fact is that he's cashed in more Main Events than any player ever. He deserves it.

[Kaveros 0]

What is the criteria if you could Daniel?