Willing 2 Die 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Villian is playing with his wife across from him. He is an older gentleman and seems to be a donk. I cant remember playing any hands with him before this one, as he has only been at the table for about 20 minutes.MY cards are AKddEffective stacks: Hero $300, Villian $185 Preflop: Villian limps UTG, 4 others limp, Hero raises to $15 in cutoff, Villian calls $15, everyone else folds.Flop: 6d, Kx, 3cVillian checks: Hero bets $25, Villian calls $25.Turn: 4dVillian checks, Hero bets $40, Villian makes a hesitant look on his face, squinches his mouth and calls $40.River: 4hVillian checks, Hero bets $50, Villian throws a black and red chip for $105 total making it $60 more back to me. Hero calls $60 Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 so he pushed all in his last $105. making the pot $315 and you have to call $60 bucks hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm do u ever fold this getting > 5:1. i think not.(i hope my math is right) Link to post Share on other sites
Willing 2 Die 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 so he pushed all in his last $105. making the pot $315 and you have to call $60 bucks hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm do u ever fold this getting > 5:1. i think not.(i hope my math is right)yea, i called him. I modified the post.What do you think he shows up here with? What do you think of the line i took? Link to post Share on other sites
gfdsa146 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 What is with the little swedish massage bet on the turn? Villian is a 1/2 donk. 1/2 donks call. Make him call something bigger. If you get more than half of his stack in on the turn (which a bigger bet would have done), the river plays itself. Link to post Share on other sites
krup24 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 What is with the little swedish massage bet on the turn? Villian is a 1/2 donk. 1/2 donks call. Make him call something bigger. If you get more than half of his stack in on the turn (which a bigger bet would have done), the river plays itself.fwiw the river still played itself Link to post Share on other sites
craiger 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I would def bet a bit more on the flop, like at least $30 ...and if my math is right you only bet $40 into a pot of $90 on the turn? Make the donk call more for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Bet $60 on the turn, call river. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 What do you think he shows up here with? What do you think of the line i took?45 offIt's fine because you were crushing him. And you have to call this river bet, BTW Link to post Share on other sites
Willing 2 Die 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Does anybody like betting $30 on the flop, checking turn for pot control, and calling river? Is this a stupid line? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Does anybody like betting $30 on the flop, checking turn for pot control, and calling river? Is this a stupid line?Um, no, I might shove the turn. That's where you erred. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Does anybody like betting $30 on the flop, checking turn for pot control, and calling river? Is this a stupid line? Yes. You have TPTK and the NFD on the turn. What are you so worried that he's got that might be beating you?Also, the stacks aren't deep so pot control is kind of pointless. Link to post Share on other sites
Willing 2 Die 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 Yes. You have TPTK and the NFD on the turn. What are you so worried that he's got that might be beating you?Also, the stacks aren't deep so pot control is kind of pointless.i may have had the suits wrong. I don't recall having a flush draw on the turn. Should we still be charging him heavily on the turn though? Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 i may have had the suits wrong. I don't recall having a flush draw on the turn. Should we still be charging him heavily on the turn though?You should bet the turn here almost always because it's not like there are that many hands that he can have that are gonna be beating you, but there are a lot of good weaker TP hands that he will call a bet with. Link to post Share on other sites
StilettoNole 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Does anyone else raise more pre-flop with like 8 billion limpers ahead of you? When it gets to you there is already $13 in the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Does anyone else raise more pre-flop with like 8 billion limpers ahead of you? When it gets to you there is already $13 in the pot.Sometimes, but it doesn't make much of a difference. Link to post Share on other sites
Willing 2 Die 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Author Share Posted February 11, 2008 I got felted here as Villian had a set of 3's. What really threw me off was his hesitation wince as he reached for chips to call my turn bet. Tricky old fart. Other then getting more money in the pot on the turn, it sounds like other people would go broke here too? Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I got felted here as Villian had a set of 3's. What really threw me off was his hesitation wince as he reached for chips to call my turn bet. Tricky old fart. Other then getting more money in the pot on the turn, it sounds like other people would go broke here too?yup. if he had more money you could get away from it. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 I got felted here as Villian had a set of 3's. What really threw me off was his hesitation wince as he reached for chips to call my turn bet. Tricky old fart. Other then getting more money in the pot on the turn, it sounds like other people would go broke here too?I never believe obv tells. Link to post Share on other sites
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