whiterice714 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.30 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)saw flop|saw showdownUTG ($22.35)MP ($136.20)CO ($53.30)Hero ($52.45)SB ($62.70)BB ($59.55)Preflop: Hero is Button with J, Q. 1 fold, MP raises to $1.05, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.05, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.Flop: ($4.20) 8, 3, 3(4 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.Turn: ($4.20) A(4 players)SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks.River: ($4.20) 9(4 players)SB checks, BB bets $3.5, MP calls $3.50, Hero ? any value in a raise here...i wont lie, i probably didn't spend enough time thinking this one through, i flat called but was wondering if there's aaaaaaany value in a raisei saw none @ a glance...*i understand nobody's done anything to say they have a 'big hand' here but w/ that in mind what's going to pay me off?plus i've seen the SB / BB show up w/ holdings like A3s & such here trying to 'slow play & extract max value' which makes no sense... this IS .15/.30 lets not forget.... *edit*guy in this hand is a dutch aggro donk who plays stupid hands in stupid places.. bluffs unnecessarily & will hang around w/ virtually nothing (mid pairs, under pairs, A high, gut shots, back door flush & straight draws, etc) so the PF call is standard... i've actually been calling flop bets w/ air & taking on the turn... Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedKills 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 the way the hand was played, you can be getting calls from bad aces that didnt want to bet and smaller flushes. You could raise, but then if you get repopped its tough to call. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I stab at that flop quite a bit.With stacks beings o deep I could raise/fold Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 your hand becomes very transparent when you raise this river. i don't know what calls you, honestly, unless it is a lower flush Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 I stab at that flop quite a bit.With stacks beings o deep I could raise/foldYou stab the flop? For what reason?And yes, raise the river. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Share Posted February 9, 2008 You stab the flop? For what reason?And yes, raise the river.uhm it's checked to me and I have position? I think a $3 bet wins the pot so often here. Link to post Share on other sites
whiterice714 0 Posted February 9, 2008 Author Share Posted February 9, 2008 i will occasionally stab as well, but the problem w/ that in this specific scenario is the SB & BB still have to act, they could easily have been checking simply looking to check raise the original raiser... lets also not for get we have completely bricked this flop & have air.... if i'm stabbing @ this pot, it's on the turn TBH, which i almost did... Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 if i'm stabbing @ this pot, it's on the turn TBH, which i almost did...exactly Link to post Share on other sites
craiger 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I would've bet this turn here as a semi-bluff. As played, the river might be a good spot for a min-raise Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I don't think we're taking this down very often with a flop bet, TBH. We do have position for on future streets, but then we get into 2 and 3 barrel bluffing people at low limits who don't fold.And I'm still checking the turn behind like always. We're not going to push anyone off of Ax here at .15/.30 deep, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
ROBBBIGG 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 I don't stab the flop, I check turn, and raise river. I'd make it 10 and fold to a reraise. Link to post Share on other sites
potatoman 0 Posted February 10, 2008 Share Posted February 10, 2008 As played, the river might be a good spot for a min-raise This might be one of the very rare situations where I might min raise. I also think just calling is fine. I'm fine with everything else (preflop, flop, turn) Link to post Share on other sites
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