Whatever 1 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 My 6th hand at the table. I have bet out aggressively and won 3 of the first 5 hands. Table is at 35% VP$IP.Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Whatever is UTG with [As], [Jh]. Whatever calls, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [Kh], [Ad], [Ac] (5 players)SB checks, BB checks,What should I do? Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Raise preflopBet the flop. A lot of people won't believe you have an ace if you raised preflop. Unfortunately by betting after limping in, you've given your ace away Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 Raise preflop in 1st position with AJo? Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 YesRaise AJo from any position if it hasn't yet been raised, this includes UTG Link to post Share on other sites
Petoria 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 AJo is a good hand to raise with, but i don't think i would call two cold with it. It's the perfect hand to illustrate the gap concept. Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 Whatever bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB folds, BBfolds.Final Pot: 3 BB I pretty much chose the worst thing to do there I think. :shock: Link to post Share on other sites
dms26 3 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Whatever bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB folds, BBfolds.Final Pot: 3 BB I pretty much chose the worst thing to do there I think. :shock:Not really, you just got a little unlucky that nobody had a decent enough hand to pay you off. I would bet there too.Raise preflop 6 handed with AJo, its not a bad hand at all, and its always good to be the aggressor. If it gets 3 bet proceed with caution. Link to post Share on other sites
tskillz187 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 its 10 handed not 6 handed i dont like the raise preflop from utg with AJo and you have to bet the flop to keep free flush and straight cards away. you played it fine Link to post Share on other sites
dapokerbum 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 My 6th hand at the table. I have bet out aggressively and won 3 of the first 5 hands.If you have been trying to play aggressive at this table then you need to keep this up and definitely raise with AJo anywhere. Then your table image will be the agressive type and you can play off of that until you change it up and then they won't know what hit them. As far as the bet on the flop definitely would've tried to c/r if check all around bet the turn...JMO 8) Link to post Share on other sites
Pokerdad2222 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Raise preflop  Bet the flop. A lot of people won't believe you have an ace if you raised preflop. Unfortunately by betting after limping in, you've given your ace awayPeople wont think you have an ace if you raise preflop?? where did you come up with that? If I get an ace and a face I like to raise preflop as do most poker players. Why would you say they wont think you have an ace if you raise preflop????????????? Link to post Share on other sites
princeof56k 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I usually fold AJo UTG in a 10 handed game. I understand you want to keep up an agressive table image, but you've only been there for 6 hands.Am I being too tight by folding AJo UTG? BTW, if I usually decide to play it somewhere, I almost always bring it in with a raise. Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 2nd hand today :shock: Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (9 max, 8 handed) converterPreflop: Whatever is MP1 with [Ac], [Js]. 2 folds.Flop: (7.50 SB) [5c], [9h], [6c] (4 players)Whatever bets, CO calls, Button calls.Turn: (5.25 BB) [8c] (4 players)Whatever bets, CO calls, Button calls.River: (8.25 BB) [Kd] (4 players)Whatever bets, CO calls, Button folds.Final Pot: 10.25 BB Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted May 3, 2005 Author Share Posted May 3, 2005 For some reason the converter didn't convert this:Whatever shows [ Ac, Js ] high card ace.*to remain nameless* doesn't show [ Ad, Th ] high card ace.Whatever wins $19.5 from the main pot with high card ace with jack kicker. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 For some reason the converter didn't convert this:Whatever shows [ Ac, Js ] high card ace.*to remain nameless* doesn't show [ Ad, Th ] high card ace.Whatever wins $19.5 from  the main pot  with high card ace with jack kicker.That's a "feature" of the converter designed to hide the results.There's a checkbox to enable them. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 its 10 handed not 6 handed i dont like the raise preflop from utg with AJo and you have to bet the flop to keep free flush and straight cards away. Â you played it fineRaise AJo 10handed unless you suck postflop.Checking isn't bad on this flop since you limped preflop. Bet if you raised preflop.The second hand: Why are you betting ace high on the river into 3 people? Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 The second hand: Why are you betting ace high on the river into 3 people?He's representing the ace high flush (since he's got the ace of clubs) and counting on the typical Party 1/2 donks to fold against it. One donk called with a worse ace high and the other donk folded. The only chance he has to win that pot is to stay on the gas pedal. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 The second hand: Why are you betting ace high on the river into 3 people?He's representing the ace high flush (since he's got the ace of clubs) and counting on the typical Party 1/2 donks to fold against it. One donk called with a worse ace high and the other donk folded. The only chance he has to win that pot is to stay on the gas pedal.No. Nooone is folding a better hand and our hand is definately not best enough to bet. If it was heads up and we had some kind of read on villian, we could argue betting this river. Here, it's spewage. Link to post Share on other sites
Absolute 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 AJo is an easy raise in any position without a raise before you.It's an easy fold if its two cold to you unless everyone and their mother has called before you.Bet the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
cdddc75 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 The second hand: Why are you betting ace high on the river into 3 people?He's representing the ace high flush (since he's got the ace of clubs) and counting on the typical Party 1/2 donks to fold against it. One donk called with a worse ace high and the other donk folded. The only chance he has to win that pot is to stay on the gas pedal.No. No one is folding a better hand and our hand is definately not best enough to bet. If it was heads up and we had some kind of read on villian, we could argue betting this river. Here, it's spewage.I think against two opponents it is spewage too, but it's not awful. He's led out the whole way and didn't slow down one instant when the third club hit. He's probably not getting a flush to fold, but he probably got the best hand to fold on the river.With the proper reads on the two opponents, I might make the same play. One of my opponents had a 95% VP$IP after 50 hands last night. Link to post Share on other sites
JFarrell20 1 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Whatever bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB folds, BBfolds.Final Pot: 3 BB I pretty much chose the worst thing to do there I think. Â :shock:No you didn't. Link to post Share on other sites
cdxx 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Whatever bets, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, SB folds, BBfolds.Final Pot: 3 BB I pretty much chose the worst thing to do there I think. Â :shock:the problem with not raising pre-flop, if you get the flop you want, and everyone misses, the pot is not big enough for them to give you action, and you end up winning only one small bet from everyone, rather than two.a bet PF could be anything from QQ to TT and KQo. with a flop like AAK, people would be very willing to bluff at you, or play their KT, or KQ pairs. a limp PF and a raise on AAK would put you on A-rag suited, so it's tough for KT to make that call.six handed, i absolutely raise AJo. ten handed, AJo is raisable if you have a decent chance of stealing blinds and/or isolate some loose players and/or have position on any tight players in the pot. Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted May 4, 2005 Author Share Posted May 4, 2005 One of my opponents had a 95% VP$IP after 50 hands last night.In regards to the 2nd AJo - Mr. Villian was at 86% in the 15 hands I had watched him. After 50 hands of playing at his table he dropped to 76%. :shock: Thanks for the comments everyone! Link to post Share on other sites
PrtyPSux 0 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 for the second hand is this wrong? :PF raiseF raiseT check/callR check/fold ( it would prob. get checked around and you'd get the pot)too weak? right play? .. thats probably how id play it if I wasnt tilting. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest XXEddie Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 I usually fold AJo UTG in a 10 handed game. I understand you want to keep up an agressive table image, but you've only been there for 6 hands.Am I being too tight by folding AJo UTG? BTW, if I usually decide to play it somewhere, I almost always bring it in with a raise.no....i prefer it Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Folding AJo from UTG is too tight. You're missing out on money. Link to post Share on other sites
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